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I think we should give every illegal a blanket that was used by someone who had smallpox.
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What a coincidence! The news here at 0540 just said the same stat! Weird...
No more amnesty. We tried it before in my lifetime and just got MS13 growing like crazy and starting their own human smuggling ops. They didn't do what the -------s said, and are once again saying! Instead, they mostly stayed at the lowest levels of the workforce, didn't learn English and didn't assimilate. Some did, of course, but some illegals do too, but that is the minority rather than this big open love fest -------s keep spouting.
I'm sick of it. If this were Swedes with a back door line into the US and all of them popping out kids and living on welfare and starting little swede gangs and winding up as the majority of pics on the DEA most wanted lists for each and every state, no one would blink when we starting asking for proof of legal status for every person that got stopped with a Swedish accent. I do not care one whit where they come from. If I have to show my driver's license when I get stopped, let them show too. And if they are illegal they should have NO official papers from the US, including a license.
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If we all believed the American Indian was the first group of people in America and we took the land from them, does that mean we should freely hand it to the next group that wants it. Should we , out of remorse from what our forefathers did give the United States to those who decide to just walk across our borders and take what they want? Or should we fight for what is now our country and our freedom?
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I don't think the American Indian freely handed over their lands to anyone either. From what I have read they tried to fight. They were not successful.
Other people took their land from them.
Might be what is happening today with the U.S. Maybe another group of people will take it without force.
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I do not care one whit where they come from. If I have to show my driver's license when I get stopped, let them show too. And if they are illegal they should have NO official papers from the US, including a license.
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Do you actually live in a place where the law enforcement will just let anyone go without checking their license? Around here the police have to have a reason to stop a person. If they do not have a valid drivers license that is another ticket along with the original reason they were stopped.
If it was that easy everyone I know would say they were illegals each time they were stopped. Don't know about where you live but around here the police would not tell you to enjoy your drive and wave as you drove off.
Our county jail has several mexicans in it now. I don't know what their charge is but they cannot speak english. Don't know if they are legal or not.
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08/12/10, 08:21 PM
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Breckenridge Hospital in Austin had 1,500 babies born to illegal alien mothers last year.
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Maybe another group of people will take it without force.
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Naw, Barack Hussein Abdullah Obama will try to hand it over. Like he's trying to do now - gives Mexican's false hope. Maybe Arizona's stance will take hold and other states will follow. We are headed for some very, very hard times and American's will not be so likely to cede anything without a fight and I'm thinking the drug cartels and Mexican army won't last too long. We've got some nasty old boys here who are very patriotic or at least crazy.
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Willow, if a few of the people on here would really look back at their ancestors we would probably have a lot less whining and complaining.
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No kidding! I think everyone wants to believe their ancestors came to America, promptly learned English, and were model citizens. T'aint so! Well, some were, and some weren't (just like today). But certainly today's immigrants aren't the first to participate in criminal activities. Can you say, Mafia?
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No kidding! I think everyone wants to believe their ancestors came to America, promptly learned English, and were model citizens. T'aint so! Well, some were, and some weren't (just like today). But certainly today's immigrants aren't the first to participate in criminal activities. Can you say, Mafia?
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On my father's side the family tree stops at my great grandfather. Guess it is more of a bush than a tree.
No one knows where he came from or even his real name, he chose his own.
I am named after him, some of the family seems to think I resemble him in looks and personality.
Personally I think he was either a horse thief or killed someone very important.
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We don't live in the past. We live in the present.
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08/13/10, 04:37 AM
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Do you actually live in a place where the law enforcement will just let anyone go without checking their license? Around here the police have to have a reason to stop a person. If they do not have a valid drivers license that is another ticket along with the original reason they were stopped.
If it was that easy everyone I know would say they were illegals each time they were stopped. Don't know about where you live but around here the police would not tell you to enjoy your drive and wave as you drove off.
Our county jail has several mexicans in it now. I don't know what their charge is but they cannot speak english. Don't know if they are legal or not.
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No...you must have read my post wrong. I'm saying exactly what you said. If I have to show it when I get stopped at the drunk checkpoints or whatever else then so should everyone else. And if they can't produce one, of course they should go to jail and if their citizenship can't be proved, boot 'em.
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No kidding! I think everyone wants to believe their ancestors came to America, promptly learned English, and were model citizens. T'aint so! Well, some were, and some weren't (just like today). But certainly today's immigrants aren't the first to participate in criminal activities. Can you say, Mafia?
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The difference is that most Americans have ancestors that showed up here BEFORE there were specific rules on immigration or when those rules entailed only the swearing of loyalty before an official of the early country. Even during the mass migration the rules were handled at both ends of the process, before you got on the boat and then after you landed. And what was needed was different from today and there were no social welfare programs that losers could immediately start hanging off of.
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08/13/10, 06:06 AM
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On my father's side the family tree stops at my great grandfather. Guess it is more of a bush than a tree.
No one knows where he came from or even his real name, he chose his own.
I am named after him, some of the family seems to think I resemble him in looks and personality.
Personally I think he was either a horse thief or killed someone very important.
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HE said "BUSH"!
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08/13/10, 08:24 AM
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No...you must have read my post wrong. I'm saying exactly what you said. If I have to show it when I get stopped at the drunk checkpoints or whatever else then so should everyone else. And if they can't produce one, of course they should go to jail and if their citizenship can't be proved, boot 'em.
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Sorry, sometimes I don't understand what I read.
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HE said "BUSH"!
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Oh no. It was Bush's fault. Makes me feel better now that I know who to blame.
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No...you must have read my post wrong. I'm saying exactly what you said. If I have to show it when I get stopped at the drunk checkpoints or whatever else then so should everyone else. And if they can't produce one, of course they should go to jail and if their citizenship can't be proved, boot 'em.
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Christy, at the time of the boot, what happens to her nine-month-old citizen baby? And the kid's dad, and the kid's sister/brother both legal and undocumented; what happens?
Your sig/tag is polar opposite to your writings on this thread. Was the real Christy kidnapped ? I've not noticed such hateful irrational writings from you on other threads.
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Oh no. It was Bush's fault. Makes me feel better now that I know who to blame.
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Silly me, I thought TG was exclaming about the other bush.
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The difference is that most Americans have ancestors that showed up here BEFORE there were specific rules on immigration or when those rules entailed only the swearing of loyalty before an official of the early country. Even during the mass migration the rules were handled at both ends of the process, before you got on the boat and then after you landed. And what was needed was different from today and there were no social welfare programs that losers could immediately start hanging off of.
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Totally new meaning to the saying, the early bird gets the worm.
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Oh for petes sake, I get so tired of the same old "You're RACIST!!" crud, and hearing about the Native Americans & what happened to them hundreds of years ago when the subject of ILLEGAL immigration comes up. Nothing "racist" about wanting to enforce FEDERAL LAWS. ILLEGAL isn't a RACE, it's a CRIME. Period.
NONE of us were alive NOR are responsible for what happened in ancient history. I know exactly when & how my ancestors got here, on the boat, at Ellis Island. LEGALLY. And if my Great-great-Great Uncle Jehosiphat stole some Native American's horse, am I expected to pay back the $$ to his great--great-great-grand-nephew? This whole thing of modern Americans being responsible for the distant past is just absurd & bs. Especially when a few shirt-tail relations were also Native Americans!!
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Oh for petes sake, I get so tired of the same old "You're RACIST!!" crud, and hearing about the Native Americans & what happened to them hundreds of years ago when the subject of ILLEGAL immigration comes up. Nothing "racist" about wanting to enforce FEDERAL LAWS. ILLEGAL isn't a RACE, it's a CRIME. Period.
NONE of us were alive NOR are responsible for what happened in ancient history. I know exactly when & how my ancestors got here, on the boat, at Ellis Island. LEGALLY. And if my Great-great-Great Uncle Jehosiphat stole some Native American's horse, am I expected to pay back the $$ to his great--great-great-grand-nephew? This whole thing of modern Americans being responsible for the distant past is just absurd & bs. Especially when a few shirt-tail relations were also Native Americans!!
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Who was it who made the law that allowed your ancestors to enter the U.S. "legally"?
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