The "Prove It" Problem

Easy. Just look at the post above this one and then go read the global warming topic. Just about any page will do but the current last 2 or 3 pages of it should be ample proof for you.

Frankly I'm sick of it. I think there's a couple of people in particular don't want to participate in discussions, "they" don't contribute anything constructive and are just being impediments, trying to derail topics and trying to drive sincere people away from participating in discussions that "they" don't approve of.

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One thing that some people are not catching is this: Some people "know" God is real. Some other people equally "know" God does not exist and science has the answers. Most of those people think the other school of thought is composed of idiots. When you consistently address people as if they are morons, you are showing your own doubts about your own belief system. I am sure people from both schools can post plenty of links, and people from the opposing point of view can scoff at those "proofs". You will never get anywhere until you realize that people with opposing points of view may be equal to, or superior to you in intellect. However, there are only a couple people on this whole board who realize they're not the brightest light in the hall. Or, the biggest tomato in the garden. Or the pointiest tooth in the tomato. Bless y'alls hearts.

Thank you Zong i resemble lot of those statements

I was joking

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I saw something nasty in the woodshed

Prove it.

I don't worry about links. Most of the time I don't go to the ones provided by other posters. I sure don't provide links. It doesn't bother me if people believe me or not. Sometimes they may do some research to prove me wrong. It has happened, I don't worry too much about it. I always hope in their research to prove me wrong they will learn a little more about the subject.

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There can be no happiness if the things we believe in are different from the things we do.

Ooo...snap girl! I think you just got to call touche!

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Christy
Growing Human
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When wearing narrow lenses of hate and ignorance, is it any wonder one finds it difficult to see clearly? - Me

Easy. I'm British and I didn't use a smilie or a winkie.

Were dry like that I'm told.

So ner.

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I saw something nasty in the woodshed

Loved it - brought back many laughable memories - Thanks!

As far as links - some here do ask as a tactic - so what - we know...

Sometimes I put in a link, sometimes not - Sometimes I look up someone elses information myself because I want to know... So what?

A lot to do about nothing.

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Only she who attempts the absurd can achieve the impossible

The only thing I know how to prove is whether the bar dilutes their liquor. If you pour a little in a saucer and light it with a match and it burns then you have proof that your liquor contains at least 50 per cent alcohol.

This does not work for 80 proof stuff. So the trick is not to order anything less that 100 proof (so you can impress the barkeep).

If this is too difficult to remember then just go for the 151 proof anejo rum and don't worry if they dilute it a little.

I must be odd man out because I actually look at the links and appreciate what they have to say about the posters points and I enjoy a good debate. I will also post links myself to get across what I am trying to say and I guess to me that is just common sense.

I actually understand what your saying Christy and if I see something I dont think is right I am one who goes and looks things up because I almost always learn something I didnt know previously. But I think its also reasonable for folks to ask where you got your information because not everyone is good at research.

On the global warming thread there were a couple of links that were purported to be something they werent. They were real events that did support the posters claim to a certain degree but they were way overblown and when you actually read the links it was obviously not what was being portrayed in the thread. I did further research and posted links disputing the conclusions made by the original poster...because to me its part of the debate. Now you have professional credentials that you posted which gives you certain cred on that subject and as a scientist that makes you open to review and debate of what you say as a professional. I confess, I am still debating whether to access your thesis because much of it seems to be in an arcane language understood only by the slide rule types (my father bless him is an engineering geologist who has a language all his own) but the subject does interest me. But you see if I read something that I dont understand or I do not agree with your hypothesis would you not agree that it is part of any debate to question your conclusions or statements and ask for either clarification or substantiation?

The entire country is so polarized about just about everything right now and it seems like all we can come up with anymore is you are either with me or against me with no room for debate, compromise, or acceptance of differing views. And that goes for religion, politics, financials, scientific, or even social issues. If I posted AGW has now been proven to be completely false would you not agree that it would be immediately attacked and I would be hounded to prove it..and rightfully so?

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I'm not "sniping" at anyone.
Just stating the facts.
I'm not the one complaining because I was asked to verify something I stated.

Some people get upset if they aren't allowed to say whatever they want without ever being questioned.

My view is that if you present something as fact, you should be able to back it up.

No one ever learns anything if the fantasies and hype are given the same credence as reality.

Education and degrees don't give you any more credibility than anyone else.

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That's exactly how I feel about those who post outright distortions of fact, and then get offended if someone questions it, or shows something to contradict it

They don't want discussion...they just want total agreement

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I also see it as a way of someone avoiding answering questions or addressing a specific point. They don't answer the question but instead ask 'proof, please?" or 'documentation, please"? There is an avoidance factor involved, especially when discussing topics of what used to be called 'common knowlege' way back when I took Logic 101 in college--- common knowlege being issues that basically everyone knows about and agrees to because they are accepted as fact and are self-evident. If something is in the realm of common knowlege, asking for someone else to 'document' it is avoidance at best, and sophistry at worst and undermines the integrity of the person asking. They make themselves look foolish.

Besides, I have gas... and I want someone to prove it.

We will take your word on that one JuliaAnn...no need for proof!!

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