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Old 07/15/10, 10:00 PM
 
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Yeah, I just read that hte ex-wife filed papers witht he courts saying he never abused her or the kids.
One never knows about these celebrity stories. They live a life foreign to the rest of us where money and headlines are the name of the game. I have no clue if he is guilty or not but it would not surprise me either way.
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Good point. I heard a forensic expert on GMA today. He said that woman was using a "professional microphone" while Mel was on speaker phone. There were segments of the tape that had been deleted, or erased over.
At one point Mel was saying "All of you" and was obviously addressing more than one person.
I hope someone can find a link of the experts take on the tapes .
In an earlier tape he is berating her for having breast implants and then says he'll let her live in the house but won't give her the house. Hmm.
There is more to the story of these tapes than what we hear.
That was all stuff I gleaned from all the "many many" sources out there.

BUT, she is not his wife. Big item there.

The tapes were never admissible in court. From what can be gleaned between the publicity wars, that wasn't the point. The point was that she supposedly wanted it public so that he would be unable to do anything more to her or take her baby because of his money.

Personally, I'm not saying she is some kind of angel. What I am saying is that the guy clearly admits to hitting her, threatens to kill her and has a history of doing this...he is still a dirtbag or very ill.
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I raise my glass to Mel for having the courage of putting this "golddigger" in her place in this PC climate.
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Old 07/16/10, 07:56 AM
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Jeez, The guy is a drunk, come on now, lets call it what it is, a drunk doing what drunks do best - making a fool of themselves, hanging around people who aren't particularly good, and picking on women or kids.

I have no comment on her golddigger status, because he was a willing participant in having "relations" with someone his childrens age, you get what you deserve.
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Its also been said hes manic depressive / bipolar and if you have ever had to deal with such a person when their meds are off you'd recognize Mels rage and irrationalness
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Its also been said hes manic depressive / bipolar and if you have ever had to deal with such a person when their meds are off you'd recognize Mels rage and irrationalness

I've wondered about that too.

If the man is bipolar, off his meds and abusing alcohol and drugs...well, God only knows.....

All I do know is that he looked darn good wearing a kilt in "Braveheart"!
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Old 07/16/10, 09:37 AM
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Texican,

Sometimes I do think your posts are a bit "out there" - and not that it matters to you necessarily - but your posts on this thread have increased my respect for you immensely.
Yup Texan i'm with Danish! This is one Russian, that grew up and put her abusive pa in place when he was gonna beat my lil brother. Funny, that worked. But I'd still go Fishen any day.
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Old 07/16/10, 10:30 AM
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Personally, I'm not saying she is some kind of angel. What I am saying is that the guy clearly admits to hitting her, threatens to kill her and has a history of doing this...he is still a dirtbag or very ill.
His camp claims to have evidence that the tapes were edited. We know he said "you deserved it". If the tapes were edited, that phrase could have been said in some other context, then pasted in right after she says that he hit her.

Now this morning, we hear this from TMZ:

Law enforcement sources who have analyzed the pictures and video -- yes, we've learned she had video shot as well -- tell TMZ there is "no evidence of external or internal damage," making it inconsistent with being punched in the face.

As we have already reported, Oksana's teeth were not damaged -- they were intact. The dentist has submitted a sworn declaration saying one veneer was out and one was cut in half, but the teeth were not damaged.

Furthermore, several experts who have examined the photos and video say there is no evidence of any soft tissue damage, which would be present if someone were struck in the mouth, and it would be "highly irresponsible" for the dentist to so quickly replace Oksana's veneers.

We're told law enforcement is investigating the scenario that the damage to the veneers could have been self-inflicted. We're told at least one expert who has evaluated the photos and video believes it's a self-inflicted injury.


So, I'll be taking a 'wait and see' attitude here until all the facts are in.
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Old 07/16/10, 12:19 PM
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I did not read all the responses but I did hear the tape and this is what I found odd:

It did not start at the beginning of the conversation.
She was loud and clear but he was very muffled
She was far far too calm and never raised her voice, or hung up.
The tape also ended at an odd junction.

I think Mel has problems but I also think this woman is a gold digger looking for a big pay-off and not a few million, but at least half his worth.
I bet he did hit her, But I wonder if this tape and maybe the hitting is part of her plan. She knows he has problems and is not well balanced and she might have nice big dollar signs in her eyes.

The tape seemed like a set-up and the press or her lawyer exaggerated the two knocked out teeth, so who knows what else is going on. It is sad for the little girl that for sure. Although if I was Mel I would get a paternity test.
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I must agree, there are two sides to every story.
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"deserved to be hit."

Goes right along with a dysfunctional saying we have here in the South:

"She needed killin'"

Once sayings like this become acceptable, the actions do, too.
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Old 07/16/10, 01:52 PM
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Not so funny, but here is a link to Mel's request for a DUI to be removed from his record.
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/20...is_record.html


read down to what he said regarding jews and women..seems old Mel has issues with several groups.
I believe there likely is some truth to the story of Mel abusing his wife - (verbally or physically). How much is truth, I don't know but I am sure that where there is smoke, there's fire as the old saying goes.

Doesn't matter to me whether he abused his first wife or not..one might say he abused her when he had the affair with Oksana and divorced his first wife, leaving her for Oksana. Perhaps he never abused the first wife because the first wife was easily controlled and Oksana, being younger, is not so apt to put up with his bull. We shall never know as we were not there.

However it plays out, he does sound as if he needs treatment for alcohol abuse and anger management if nothing else.
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But it is too late for Gibson. Look at how many on here already assume he is guilty and most will never change their minds even if the tapes are proven false. There is no doubt a woman in her position could find someone in the business to alter the tapes if she wanted. And now it turns out his soon to be wife of several years has said Gibson NEVER abused her or the children in all the years they were married and was a very loving father and husband.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/15/mel-gi...e-court-filed/
He'll get over it, although much lighter in the wallet.

He's a director/producer now, more so than an actor, so if he produces movies that people are interested in seeing, they will see them.

Look how thing's worked out for Roman Polanski and Woodie Allen, over the years.
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However it plays out, he does sound as if he needs treatment for alcohol abuse and anger management if nothing else.
Yeah, he does. Something isn't quite right there.
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"deserved to be hit."

Goes right along with a dysfunctional saying we have here in the South:

"She needed killin'"

Once sayings like this become acceptable, the actions do, too.
Lets get this straight right now
No Man would ever consider striking a woman even if the woman did deserve it and Im sorry jen but some women do put themselves in the area where they might well deserve what they give.
people are people
women and men both, when one is irrational and trying to cause you harm most humans will defend themelves .
no one female or male deserves to be abused by another .
but the "they needed killin" is sometimes accurate
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"deserved to be hit."

Goes right along with a dysfunctional saying we have here in the South:

"She needed killin'"

Once sayings like this become acceptable, the actions do, too.
Jan, are you saying that some folks don't "need killin"?

If you've been around your area very long, 'surely' you know of someone that needs killin...

One of our locals that 'needed killin'... a serial thief, who was in the arrest reports at least once a month, and never seemed to get to trial (he stole from everyone...)...folks figured he had 'something' on the DA. Well, his live-in aerated him with buckshot, for not getting her cut... she called 911, and it took an awwwffffuuulllll long time for any services to get to him... he needed killin, and the law and medical crews were busy elsewhere....

I have several more folks that I know of that 'need killin'... they've all moved away, because so many people kept trying to introduce them to the reaper...

What 'do' you do with people that need killin, but you can't kill em? and the law can't/won't touch em?
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Old 07/16/10, 11:10 PM
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I'm sorry, but I have never trusted this chick. If you can google her past -- before she was with MG -- you will see what I mean.

Radaronline published the pics of her 'knocked out teeth'. Tabloids have been reporting that the police are doubting her abuse story and now with the pic other sites are reporting that the police definitely do.

Her photo shows one veneer totally off and another chipped. Her actual teeth are still there. More importantly, 'they' are noting that the pic shows absolutely no soft tissue damage either to her gums or lips. I saw the pic and that is true. It takes a lot of force for someone to hit another and knock off the veneers. She has not a mark on her.

There are also rumors of extortion going around.

Furthermore, the judge today gave MG daily and weekend visitation with his baby daughter. Hardly a decision made in an abusive situation.

So we should just all put on the brakes and see what happens and stop believing all this stuff from 'sources.'
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what did she think she was getting into to when she was seeing him, its not like he just changed over night.....

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what did she think she was getting into to when she was seeing him, its not like he just changed over night.....

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Looks like she thought she was getting the honeyhole...moneypit...sugardaddy...
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When he left his wife and kids for this chic my first thought was "What a JERK!" "What a hypocrite!" He's made his mess...let him wallow in it. She steals another womans husband and expects to get some kid of "prize?" The whole thing is disgusting.
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