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07/07/10, 08:29 AM
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I believe that's the 2nd one.........
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Post of the day award.
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that I've had the honor to receive, in the last 2 weeks...... MUST BE ON A ROLL?!!!
I want to thank my wife, my friends and family......and all the little people who helped
make this possible. If they hadn't let me on the computer when inspiration struck.......
I shudder to think of what might have happened.....
Thank you again TG!!! (Bows to the standing ovation and widespread applause across
the internet from friend and foe alike. Picks up one of the many roses flung at his feet
and presents it to Miss TG.)
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07/07/10, 08:39 AM
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It isn't his power but rather his ideals and his agenda. Look at the list of Marxists, socialists, and such he has surrounded himself with. Just today he appointed a Dr. as healthcare Csar using a recess appointment. The Dr. is a big fan of healthcare rationing. When Obama does things like that, it means something and shows where we are headed. The list is long.
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The problem is that you believe what your sheepherders tell you. Berwick is in charge of Medicare and Medicaid. Not healthcare reform.
And he has the backing of the American Medical Association and also the guy who held that position during the Bush administration.
But, that doesn't fit your boogeyman scenario, so I'm guessing that you'll ignore it.
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07/07/10, 08:50 AM
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Actually.........no......that is just one of the functions
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because that's what HS was created to do.
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that it was 'originally' created for. Perhaps it's time for a little refresher course in
checking the net for 'other sources of information'???
Try this one on for size......even their own director says that they are unable to do
the job for which they were created........ SIMPLY AMAZING isn't???
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/59330
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07/07/10, 09:04 AM
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that I've had the honor to receive, in the last 2 weeks...... MUST BE ON A ROLL?!!!
I want to thank my wife, my friends and family......and all the little people who helped
make this possible. If they hadn't let me on the computer when inspiration struck.......
I shudder to think of what might have happened.....
Thank you again TG!!! (Bows to the standing ovation and widespread applause across
the internet from friend and foe alike. Picks up one of the many roses flung at his feet
and presents it to Miss TG.)
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You're very welcome, I'd venture to say nearly all your posts qualify. Sometimes I'M just on a roll!
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07/07/10, 09:12 AM
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The problem is that you believe what your sheepherders tell you. Berwick is in charge of Medicare and Medicaid. Not healthcare reform.
And he has the backing of the American Medical Association and also the guy who held that position during the Bush administration.
But, that doesn't fit your boogeyman scenario, so I'm guessing that you'll ignore it.
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Ok, so the last admin appointed someone we don't like. What else is new.
Can you justify the rest of 'em?
John Holdren
Valerie Garrett
Ezekial Emmanuel
Van Jones (he's still around BTW)
Carol Browner
Ron Bloom
Anita Dunn-and her hubs, whatshisname
Mark Lloyd
Robt McChesney
Jim Walters
and lets not forget Andy Stern
Cass Sunstein
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07/07/10, 09:19 AM
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What you have in Berwick is not someone who is an ideological holdover from the Bush administration.
What you have in Berwick is a man of malleable morals and character who is willing to do whatever the president tells him to do. Obama got to win twice with Berwick. First, he got a malleable appointee who already has all his underlings in place and knows the system. Second, he gets to use a turncoat so that all the folks like Oggie, his little minions out there in the field, can point and say, "See? Obama isn't so bad. Even folks from the other ideology like him!"
Never mind that Berwick has never proved himself to be a friend of the American people, liberty, or the Constitution. Never mind that he's simply a tool of whatever powers are in control. There's a lot of folks like him in government. They simply work for whomever is in charge during that election cycle.
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What you have in Berwick is not someone who is an ideological holdover from the Bush administration.
What you have in Berwick is a man of malleable morals and character who is willing to do whatever the president tells him to do. Obama got to win twice with Berwick. First, he got a malleable appointee who already has all his underlings in place and knows the system. Second, he gets to use a turncoat so that all the folks like Oggie, his little minions out there in the field, can point and say, "See? Obama isn't so bad. Even folks from the other ideology like him!"
Never mind that Berwick has never proved himself to be a friend of the American people, liberty, or the Constitution. Never mind that he's simply a tool of whatever powers are in control. There's a lot of folks like him in government. They simply work for whomever is in charge during that election cycle.
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And while you enjoy painting people with the brushes you choose, you have nothing to offer.
Except veiled threats of some sort of holy revolution.
But, even those hold no color. They are empty. Lacking of substance.
It's easy to feign to be opposed to just about everything our country is.
While, at the same time, doing nothing to create or move toward your grand vision. Whatever that is.
The simple fact is that what was set in place by our founding fathers works. It's being corrupted, mainly by large corporations who have siphoned off too much power and control. That needs to be corrected, as it has in the past.
That defect has been a problem for decades. It still is under the Obama administration. He should have been better about facing large corporations head-on. He hasn’t and I’m disappointed.
Just as I was disappointed when Bush when backwards, giving CEOs more power than they should have.
We’re paying for it, now, in the gulf and Afghanistan.
But, I believe in America enough to not give up on what has been built and paid for in the past. And that change happens through the elections our founding fathers created.
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07/07/10, 10:13 AM
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The point is that the idea of the GOP as the party of smaller government is mostly a myth.
Federal agencies became larger and less transparent during Bush's administration and likely will during Obama's.
Most folks on this forum are far more concerned with whose team is in control than they are that, beyond some window dressing, both parties are pretty much the same.
So many folks are coming up with off-the-wall accusations and conspiracy theories that the big picture is lost.
And the big picture when it comes to the gulf is that BP and other companies are pretty much calling their own shots and doing their best to control whatever information comes out of the area.
Will the govenment taking over control help make the situation any more transparent? I doubt it. But, I'm not sure how it can be any worse. BP would like to treat it as a public relations exercise.
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Can you tell me which website that the Bush admin controlled the content of?
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Originally Posted by Oggie
And while you enjoy painting people with the brushes you choose, you have nothing to offer.
Except veiled threats of some sort of holy revolution.
But, even those hold no color. They are empty. Lacking of substance.
It's easy to feign to be opposed to just about everything our country is.
While, at the same time, doing nothing to create or move toward your grand vision. Whatever that is.
The simple fact is that what was set in place by our founding fathers works. It's being corrupted, mainly by large corporations who have siphoned off too much power and control. That needs to be corrected, as it has in the past.
That defect has been a problem for decades. It still is under the Obama administration. He should have been better about facing large corporations head-on. He hasn’t and I’m disappointed.
Just as I was disappointed when Bush when backwards, giving CEOs more power than they should have.
We’re paying for it, now, in the gulf and Afghanistan.
But, I believe in America enough to not give up on what has been built and paid for in the past. And that change happens through the elections our founding fathers created.
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Oh those evil corporations...  what ever are we to do? Oh I know...how about we create the unions.. you the know the organization that is the salvation of the worker...whatever...if you buy into that whole "evil corporation" versus the "small people" garbage then you are too liberal to even see what this admin is up to...all that is carp.. and not only that but old carp.
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He's a lost cause. So thoroughly indoctrinated that he can't see the truth in front of him, as many other liberal progressives are now starting to see thanks to Obama's rapid push.
Just write him off and when he feels the whip on his own back then maybe he'll realize he was wrong all along.
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07/07/10, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ernie
He's a lost cause. So thoroughly indoctrinated that he can't see the truth in front of him, as many other liberal progressives are now starting to see thanks to Obama's rapid push.
Just write him off and when he feels the whip on his own back then maybe he'll realize he was wrong all along.
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In the words of my formerly 13-year-old daughter, "Whatever."
A response to your smatterings deserves less than that much thought.
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07/07/10, 12:06 PM
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Oh those evil corporations...  what ever are we to do? Oh I know...how about we create the unions.. you the know the organization that is the salvation of the worker...whatever...if you buy into that whole "evil corporation" versus the "small people" garbage then you are too liberal to even see what this admin is up to...all that is carp.. and not only that but old carp.
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There's something that drives me NUTS. The republicans incentivize the corporations so they stay here. The democrats penalize them so they're forced offshore. Then the dems blame the repubs for being in bed with the corps.
(And anyhow, they're ALL in bed with anyone who passes money around).
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07/07/10, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Oggie
The problem is that you believe what your sheepherders tell you. Berwick is in charge of Medicare and Medicaid. Not healthcare reform.
And he has the backing of the American Medical Association and also the guy who held that position during the Bush administration.
But, that doesn't fit your boogeyman scenario, so I'm guessing that you'll ignore it.
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i'm sure he will. he said he would "never mind."
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There's something that drives me NUTS. The republicans incentivize the corporations so they stay here. The democrats penalize them so they're forced offshore. Then the dems blame the repubs for being in bed with the corps.
(And anyhow, they're ALL in bed with anyone who passes money around).
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Yep..
_____________'s answer to corruption was corruption that answered to _____________.
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Originally Posted by Ernie
He's a lost cause. So thoroughly indoctrinated that he can't see the truth in front of him, as many other liberal progressives are now starting to see thanks to Obama's rapid push.
Just write him off and when he feels the whip on his own back then maybe he'll realize he was wrong all along.
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Long ago....
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07/07/10, 01:54 PM
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The problem is that you believe what your sheepherders tell you
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I'm a Sheep Herder and I don't lie, so why shouldn't anyone believe me?
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07/07/10, 02:02 PM
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The problem is that you believe what your sheepherders tell you. Berwick is in charge of Medicare and Medicaid. Not healthcare reform.
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No one but YOU said "healthcare REFORM"
Medicare and Medicaid ARE both "healthcare"
The only way your argument is valid is by basically arguing against something that was never stated at all
When you have to reword or fabricate something to make a point, it's pretty lame.
It's almost as bad as PD's " Gulf Stream Loop Current" ploy.
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07/07/10, 02:50 PM
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I'm a Sheep Herder and I don't lie, so why shouldn't anyone believe me?
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Your sheep have four legs.
Unless you're a really bad sheep herder.
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07/07/10, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm
No one but YOU said "healthcare REFORM"
Medicare and Medicaid ARE both "healthcare"
The only way your argument is valid is by basically arguing against something that was never stated at all
When you have to reword or fabricate something to make a point, it's pretty lame.
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So, this guy essentially replaced Bush's healthcare czar.
It's not some massive change in policy.
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07/07/10, 04:17 PM
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So, this guy essentially replaced Bush's healthcare czar.
It's not some massive change in policy.
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It's not so much about what he did, but more about the "who", the "how", and the "why":
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...nald-berwick/1
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For Republicans, the recess appointment of Donald Berwick as Medicare administrator is an effort to avoid public hearings on Berwick's statements about rationing health care and his praise of the government-run British health care system.
For the White House, it's about a breakdown of the Senate confirmation process and the need to start putting the new health care law in place
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