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7thswan 06/02/10 01:07 PM

Vander Sloot
 
New Murder?http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/...100374054.html

How Do I 06/02/10 02:01 PM

From the update -

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Authorities said the body of Ramirez was found covered in blood in the hotel room of Van der Sloot, at the Tac Hotel in Lima. She is believed to have died from multiple stab wounds.
Sure sounds like it.

ninny 06/02/10 02:10 PM

Someone needs to remove that turd from the land of the living.

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vickiesmom 06/02/10 02:11 PM

Just heard about this...the guy should have been locked up long ago..but money wins out every time.

Gregg Alexander 06/02/10 05:37 PM

I hope he finally gets whats coming to him

Lyra 06/02/10 05:43 PM

Serial killer. They should check for more missing women.

FeralFemale 06/02/10 05:49 PM

There's a dead body in his hotel room. Let's see him weasel out of this one.

poppy 06/02/10 07:18 PM

You could tell by looking at him that he wasn't normal mentally. Someone needs to put a contract out on him.

FeralFemale 06/02/10 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by poppy (Post 4464156)
You could tell by looking at him that he wasn't normal mentally. Someone needs to put a contract out on him.

I agree.


Uh...the mental thing, not the contract killing thing.

FeralFemale 06/02/10 07:34 PM

Ok....now I am not saying it is right...but if I were Natalie H's parents I would seriously be considering hiring a PI and hunting this PoS down so I could save the courts time and money...if you know what I mean...

poppy 06/02/10 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FeralFemale (Post 4464183)
Ok....now I am not saying it is right...but if I were Natalie H's parents I would seriously be considering hiring a PI and hunting this PoS down so I could save the courts time and money...if you know what I mean...

Yep, he put her family through heck and hid behind his daddy. Now he has killed another woman. He will continue to kill women until he is locked up for life or killed. Keeping him locked up is a waste of money.

JuliaAnn 06/02/10 08:19 PM

Is this the kid whose daddy is a Dutch judge or something? I guess it's nice to run around the globe, killing women in exotic countries while daddy bribes everyone to keep you from going to prison.

Inhuman monster.

Ken Scharabok 06/02/10 08:39 PM

As I recall his father died about a year or so ago. I believe he was an attorney.

Seems like a whole lot of lynch mob mentality on this thread.

poppy 06/02/10 09:00 PM

Until he is caught, he is a serious threat to women. It sounds like he is running and may figure he has nothing to lose by killing another woman or two.

tinknal 06/02/10 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Scharabok (Post 4464304)

Seems like a whole lot of lynch mob mentality on this thread.

I agree. Mind you he almost certainly is guilty. I was willing to give him the benifit of the doubt after the first one, given the lack of evidence. but this time 2 strikes is just too danged many.

Ken Scharabok 06/02/10 09:56 PM

The evidence, while seemingly quite ----ing, is circumstantial. About like the OJ Simpson criminal trial and he was found not guilty after a VERY short jury deliberation.

He is likely soon to be one of the most wanted men on the Earth. I expect if he is captured there will be a prolonged extradiction process.

I would expect him to use the SODDI defense (some other dude did it). He doesn't need to prove he didn't do it, the state needs to prove he did.

Potential for killing others? Why? Just to rack up the score? Go out with a bang rather than a whimper?

poppy 06/02/10 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Scharabok (Post 4464436)
The evidence, while seemingly quite ----ing, is circumstantial. About like the OJ Simpson criminal trial and he was found not guilty after a VERY short jury deliberation.

He is likely soon to be one of the most wanted men on the Earth. I expect if he is captured there will be a prolonged extradiction process.

I would expect him to use the SODDI defense (some other dude did it). He doesn't need to prove he didn't do it, the state needs to prove he did.

Potential for killing others? Why? Just to rack up the score? Go out with a bang rather than a whimper?

I saw on the news that this girl died on the 5th anniversary of Holloway's disappearance. Coincidence? As to the possibility that he didn't do it, let's see a show of hands of those who had a girl disappear from the face of the earth on a night when you were the last person seen with her. On the off chance that any of you did, how many of you also had a murdered girl show up in your motel room on the 5th anniversary of the 1st girl's disappearance while you were fleeing the country? Any hands? Didn't think so.

JuliaAnn 06/02/10 11:22 PM

Well, I don't know how to calculate the math of it all, but I think of it this way...

How many times in the average person's life are they a prime suspect in a murder investigation? I'm guessing pretty darn slim.

Now what are the chances of a person being a prime suspect in a second murder investigation? Probably MUCH smaller, wouldn't you think?

Do I think he's guilty?

I think there is an extremely high probability that he is guilty. Lynch mob mentality? No. Just a normal reaction to someone who is at the center of the disappearance of one young woman and the stabbing death of another.

No coincidence there, sorry.

tinknal 06/02/10 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JuliaAnn (Post 4464544)
Well, I don't know how to calculate the math of it all, but I think of it this way...

How many times in the average person's life are they a prime suspect in a murder investigation? I'm guessing pretty darn slim.

Now what are the chances of a person being a prime suspect in a second murder investigation? Probably MUCH smaller, wouldn't you think?

Do I think he's guilty?

I think there is an extremely high probability that he is guilty. Lynch mob mentality? No. Just a normal reaction to someone who is at the center of the disappearance of one young woman and the stabbing death of another.

No coincidence there, sorry.

While I agree that the statistics look bad.............. Of all people wrongly accused, there certainly is a statistic that will support that one will be wrongly accused a second time.

Do I think he is guilty? Probably. But it is not mine to decide.

JuliaAnn 06/03/10 12:41 AM

Yeah, I understand your point.

Just too many things totally wrong with this guy and his behavior. Can't seem to bring myself to give him any benefit of doubt. Not when young ladies associated with him either come up missing or dead. Death is something you don't mess around with.

Just my two cents, as usual.

Gregg Alexander 06/03/10 04:42 AM

He is a KILLER!!! You know it I know it. He is not mentally unstable he is a Cunning Killer, smash him out of the gene pool like you would a roach,period. He killed Natalie Holloway and you know it and I know it, good old rotting father got him off with that murder. Maybe her family will finally get justice if he dont kill him self

Common Tator 06/03/10 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Scharabok (Post 4464304)
Seems like a whole lot of lynch mob mentality on this thread.

Lets see. He has admitted to killing Natalee Holloway, and now the bloody and battered body of another woman is found in his hotel room.

Here is a piece about him admitting to killing Natalee.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/natalee...ory?id=9917465

So why wouldn't we want to see him taken off the streets for good?

JeffNY 06/03/10 08:37 AM

Since the law doesn't work, someone needs to take it into their own hands, and take care of the scumbag.



Jeff

7thswan 06/03/10 08:38 AM

I just heard that Joran had asked the hotel housekeeping to not bother cleaning up his room, this would give him time to leave in advance of the discovery. Also there is no evidence that he has left the country.

farmmom 06/03/10 08:52 AM

How about a short rope and a tall tree. That should about do it.

poppy 06/03/10 09:07 AM

Since both girls died on the same date, it sounds like it could be ritual killing of some sort.

EasyDay 06/03/10 09:41 AM

Could be, poppy. There could have also been three more in between these two that we don't know about.

I think he's a rich brat who got away with murder in Aruba, and now thinks he's smarter than the average bear. I also don't believe that either murder was planned; especially this one in the hotel. That would be stupid unless one WANTS to get caught. Snotty brat with a bad temper. Girl tells him "no", he snaps and bludgeons them to death, IMO.

I hope they catch him and imprison him in Peru, as his prison stay will be less pleasant than in many other places. The authorities in Aruba were either bought off by "daddy", or are just plain incapable of doing their jobs.

I guess he was last known to have crossed into Chile. I'm sure the Chileans will hand him over to the Peruvians. I don't really care WHAT they do to him, as long as he's not released into public... .EVER!

Ken Scharabok 06/03/10 09:57 AM

"I hope they catch him and imprison him in Peru, as his prison stay will be less pleasant than in many other places. The authorities in Aruba were either bought off by "daddy", or are just plain incapable of doing their jobs."

I doubt either of the last two cases. When someone gives so many contractory stories which one do you beleive? Or at least try to convince a jury that one, out of several, is the more accurate one. Without a body it is had to convict someone.

At least this time they do have a body to start working from.

JuliaAnn 06/03/10 11:46 AM

"At least this time"....

Yeah, great.

poppy 06/03/10 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by EasyDay (Post 4465035)
Could be, poppy. There could have also been three more in between these two that we don't know about.

I think he's a rich brat who got away with murder in Aruba, and now thinks he's smarter than the average bear. I also don't believe that either murder was planned; especially this one in the hotel. That would be stupid unless one WANTS to get caught. Snotty brat with a bad temper. Girl tells him "no", he snaps and bludgeons them to death, IMO.

I hope they catch him and imprison him in Peru, as his prison stay will be less pleasant than in many other places. The authorities in Aruba were either bought off by "daddy", or are just plain incapable of doing their jobs.

I guess he was last known to have crossed into Chile. I'm sure the Chileans will hand him over to the Peruvians. I don't really care WHAT they do to him, as long as he's not released into public... .EVER!

Good point. This guy gets around from country to country quite a bit apparently. All countries he is known to visit should be looking at all unsolved murders of young females, especially on that date.

EDDIE BUCK 06/03/10 01:07 PM

GOT HIM!! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100603/..._van_der_sloot VIDEO http://video.foxnews.com/v/4225610/murder-suspect-caught

farmmom 06/03/10 01:23 PM

Yeah!!!

Common Tator 06/03/10 01:34 PM

Woot!

Ken Scharabok 06/03/10 01:49 PM

Reportedly he has been caputured:

http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article...ays%2F19501701

7thswan 06/03/10 02:21 PM

Good, .

Ken Scharabok 06/04/10 12:37 AM

At the moment doesn't even look like there is an international arrest warrant out on him. Likely to be released with ankle monitoring.

http://www.aolnews.com/article/feds-...loway/19502842

EasyDay 06/04/10 07:12 AM

I heard he was also trying to "sell" the location of Natalie's body for $250K to someone. Don't have the details, but will look. I know they want him in Alabama, but I suppose AL will have to wait their turn. I'm sure the Peruvians won't give him up so easily... if he even makes it out alive.

EasyDay 06/04/10 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Scharabok (Post 4466201)
At the moment doesn't even look like there is an international arrest warrant out on him. Likely to be released with ankle monitoring.

http://www.aolnews.com/article/feds-...loway/19502842

I should have read your link before posting my last post! :)

HermitJohn 06/04/10 08:29 AM

I think the gal in Peru was daughter of some minor celebrity in Peru, so I suspect if Peru gets him, he will spend rest of his life in Peru, however long that may be.

EDDIE BUCK 06/04/10 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Scharabok (Post 4466201)
At the moment doesn't even look like there is an international arrest warrant out on him. Likely to be released with ankle monitoring.

http://www.aolnews.com/article/feds-...loway/19502842

On Greta Van Susterin,she said that was Natilie's mom who paid the fifteen thousand to Vander Sloot for the info.Once he got the money,he went to South America.


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