Man paralyzed after drinking raw milk

mountainlaurel · #21 04/21/10, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pmondo

maybe you should do a search on how many people each year are made sick from your so called known to be safe milk

Just three weeks ago, elementary school students became sick from drinking chocolate milk from the Dairy Maid Dairy located in Frederick. There were cleaning agents in the choc milk and the container holding the contaimenated ones was labeled but they still got sent to the school. The children that drank the whole carton got the sickest.

QuiltingLady2 · #22 04/21/10, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by haypoint

Quiltinglady, it isn't quite as simple as that.
There is always a knee-jerk reaction when tainted food hits the market.
If you sell your raw milk to someone that dies, the market contracts, costing the people that sell pasturized milk. Keeping the reputation of milk as a safe food is important to every dairy. Selling raw milk, especially the larger dairies, is playing Russian Roulette with the livelihood of every dairy farmer.

Exactly. I had hoped that a real Dairy Farmer would point that out.

I grew up in Dairy country. Safe milk is the only way to go.

Ernie · #23 04/21/10, 12:01 PM

I wouldn't drink raw milk from a large dairy where I'm one of 4500 customers. From my own cow or goat where I saw what went in the pail? You betcha. Have done it many a time. However I fully support the right of anyone to sell it or consume it as they will. There's a billion things that can hurt or kill you. If certain people had their way, all of America would be one smooth sterilized surface with every action scrutinized by at least three government inspectors standing over their shoulder. All ships are safer in port, but that's not what ships are for.

Keep in mind that the entire point of this post was to support the "full government control of everything under the sun" agenda of many of the progressive liberals on this forum. It's part of their agenda.

haypoint · #24 04/21/10, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyra

Honestly, there are enough Amish in PA & OH that if you really want raw milk I would think there are enough places to get it besides a place known for bad milk.

Please, please, Lyra! Tell me you are not infering that because the milk comes from an Amish farm it is somehow free from deadly pathogens.

In every product and every line of work, people are individuals. There are Amish that build poor furnature, make cookies that are tasteless, sell horses that are lame and sell contaminated raw milk. Just a few weeks ago, an Amish dairy was shut down after a bunch of people injested enough bacteria from their raw milk to make them sick.

Amish are people, too.

farmergirl · #25 04/21/10, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lilmizlayla

why would anyone choose to drink raw milk instead of milk that has been sterilized and known to be safe?

Because "sterilized" milk is devoid of the natural enzymes that help us to digest the milk. I have IBS and cannot tolerate pasteurized milk anymore as it causes GI probs for me.

7thswan · #26 04/21/10, 12:09 PM

Oh No, the Gov. will find a way to Tax the carp out of milk now.

watcher · #27 04/21/10, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by navygirl

"If I am forced to pay, which it looks like its heading that way, they I think I have a right to demand you not take such chances and demand the banning of raw milk sales and to make consumption of raw milk illegal."

Okay, if I am forced to pay for other folks' health care (and it looks like it's headed that way), then I think I have a right to demand they not take such chances and demand the banning of driving and to make driving illegal. And no sports either, 'cause they might get hurt. And I might have to demand that no one work at any dangerous jobs. That's it... I'm wrapping everyone up in cotton and taking away everything sharp or pointy!!!

Bing! Give that gal a cig-ar!!! She hit the bullseye. If someone else is paying for you they have the right to tell you what you will receive. When the government starts paying for your health care it will start telling you how to live. No raw milk, no transfats, no salt. . . .

watcher · #28 04/21/10, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by springvalley

So.... if I'm reading this right, you want drinking raw milk banned because one person got sick/paralized drinking it and you don't want to pay for someone else's care if they drink the milk? Well, then let's correlate this... others have gotten sick from eating spinach, so let's ban eating raw spinach. I've gotten food poisioning eating at fast food places, so let's close down all fast food places. A young man died kissing a girl that ate a peanut butter sandwich, so let's make peanut butter illegal! Oh heck, while we're at it, let's just make it illegal for anyone to grow or eat anything raw, like lettuce, tomatoes, onions, radishes, carrots, cellery, peas, green beans.... apples, oranges, peaches, pears, ..... etc. No more fresh foods! Nothing allowed but cooked and canned foods you can buy over priced in the stores that has all the nutrients cooked out of it! Get real! You're starting a snowball with one person getting sick! Just my two cents worth... while I'm in a bad mood. -Catherine

Nope, read it again. If you want to drink raw milk, go right ahead. If you want to juggle running chainsaws, be my guest. If you want cover yourself in raw bacon and swim with the sharks, I don't care. As long as you are ready, willing and able to care for yourself if something goes wrong. When I'm paying for your care then I think I have the right to tell you you can't take a chance.

navygirl · #29 04/21/10, 12:59 PM

Geez... I was just trying to point out how ridiculous it's gotten. I don't want anyone taking care of me nor telling me how to run my life. I don't want to take care of anyone else nor tell them how to run their lives. Let's negate the whole thing and simply make personal responsibility the order of the day.

Ernie · #30 04/21/10, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by navygirl

Geez... I was just trying to point out how ridiculous it's gotten. I don't want anyone taking care of me nor telling me how to run my life. I don't want to take care of anyone else nor tell them how to run their lives. Let's negate the whole thing and simply make personal responsibility the order of the day.

That's kind of the way I feel about it.

Notice the progressives didn't wait very long after the healthcare reform before they started pointing out little things they can use the issue to get control of.

Many of us warned that this was the real problem with healthcare, in that it would be used to seize control over everything else under the premise that if taxpayers have to reap the consequences of the actions of others then by rights they can dictate what others do.

Oggie · #31 04/21/10, 01:17 PM

Wow! What a coincidence!

I had a cousin who was paralyzed by drinking raw milk.

The cow sat on his face.

JeffNY · #32 04/21/10, 01:24 PM

What amazes me is that people who show concern over raw milk, show absolutely no concern over the things that cause THOUSANDS of deaths per year, the very things regulated and approved by the government.

Lets see some consistency with concerns, vs simply focusing on one little insignificant thing.

Jeff

Oggie · #33 04/21/10, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffNY

My question for those who take prescription drugs. Are you aware that 300,000+ die per year from prescription drugs?

Jeff

And you source for that info is?

Bret · #34 04/21/10, 02:04 PM

I love the smell of raw milk in a bucket or bulk tank. In high school, I remember bailing hay for a local farmer and helping ourselves to the cold milk in the bulk tank between wagon loads.

I would risk it again for me at the source in a cup, but I wouldn't back up the truck to deliver to anyone.

Maybe that's why I turned out the way I did.

mosepijo · #35 04/21/10, 02:20 PM

I will take my chances with raw milk. (Am currently drinking a tall glass)

Staying away from doctors is my goal. Now that scary.

springvalley · #36 04/21/10, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by QuiltingLady2

Exactly. I had hoped that a real Dairy Farmer would point that out.

I grew up in Dairy country. Safe milk is the only way to go.

QuiltingLady, are you saying I`m not a real dairy farmer, just because I don`t have a thousand head of cows?

mountainlaurel · #37 04/21/10, 05:45 PM

I've milked in a 'REAL Dairy Farmers' parlor more than once and when you have a dozen cows in the parlor, sometimes things happen, like one of the milkers falling off and before you can get there to get it back on the cow, it sucks up a fresh cow patty and that goes into the tank.
But don't worry, it's pasturized. So now you get to drink cooked cow manure. Cause that's what happens in a REAL DAIRY FARMERS parlor sometimes which is why the gov wants it pasturized. So the germs are cooked out of the cow hockey without removing the hockey from the fluid milk

That's why I drink raw milk from my own cow. I milk her and I know what went in it.

Laura Zone 10 · #38 04/21/10, 06:00 PM

I would do just about anything to have my own cow, and drink, make cheese, make yougart, make ice cream, and make butter from raw milk.

God made grass.
God made cows.
Cows make milk.

Man that's good enough for me!!

naturelover · #39 04/21/10, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5

I'd like to see some good stats of how many die from raw milk consumption, then numbers from salmonella, and then numbers from E coli.

Then I would like to see the stats from the salmonella cases that were contracted from the grocery store and then from restaurants.
Then I would like to see the stats from the E coli cases that were contracted from the grocery store, and then from restaurants.

I am going to guess the likelihood of contracting salmonella or E coli from your local grocery store or restaurant are at least DOUBLE the chances of dying from drinking raw milk.

But I would love to see the stats.

Since this is so important to you then it should be a good project for you. I would love to see you go look for those stats and then post them here for us. Please be sure to keep the stats you post as honest and unbiased as possible, especially free of your religious bias.

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Originally Posted by Laura Zone 5

I would do just about anything to have my own cow, and drink, make cheese, make yougart, make ice cream, and make butter from raw milk.

God made grass.
God made cows.
Cows make milk.

Man that's good enough for me!!

No, it's not good enough for you unless you are a suckling calf. God did not make cows to make milk for humans - god made cows to make milk for their calves to be suckled straight from the teat. Just as with all other mammals. All mammals get weaned off the teat after a specific period of time and then have no more access to milk - they are not supposed to have more milk after being weaned. The human digestive system is not designed to digest raw milk from other animals let alone from human milk after weaning. Humans are opportunistic and have taken advantage of the product of the cow but that's NOT what god intended milk for.

So please don't bring your religious beliefs into matters of human health.

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Oggie · #40 04/21/10, 06:33 PM

My cousin is a very godly man.