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01/17/10, 09:44 AM
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I am curious, why does that strap make them buck? I know some horses, if that belly strap on the saddle slides too far back from the cinch they'll buck and I always wondered why?
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I actually don't know. My dad always told me it "tickled" them ... and my first "real" saddle horse would buck/ kick up behind every single time you got your foot back in her flank. I used to do that just to make her do it. Touch her in the flank with your heel and up would go the rear end. The only way you could ride her double was if the rear rider rode with feet ahead or out.
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01/17/10, 10:15 AM
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Hehehe! Yeah, my first mare would NOT tolerate double riders and would start bouncing her hind end anytime you put two on her. My cousin and I got dumped once and that's the only thing we can think of is my cousin hit her flank. All we knew was one second we were riding peacefully and the next we were on our butts on the ground! After that we never rode double.
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01/17/10, 10:30 AM
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I think the flank strap basically just annoys the heck out of them. BTW, a horse can be desensitized in the flank area. Good idea to do for any horse (except of course a bucking horse!). Sometimes bucking horses just stop bucking and I think the reason is that they just got used to the flank strap.
Two stories. We had a roping arena with a bucking chute. We would ride, rope, bulldog, etc. We had a great old roping horse that loved to buck. After we were done roping, hazing, and picking up with him we would put a bronc saddle on him and buck him out.
There is an old rag-tag rodeo company up north. They would always mount bulldoggers on their dogging horse. One week the old dogging horse came up lame. The same week one of their bucking horses stopped bucking.
You guessed it. The next week we were dogging on the former bucking horse!
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01/17/10, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tinknal
I think the flank strap basically just annoys the heck out of them. BTW, a horse can be desensitized in the flank area. Good idea to do for any horse (except of course a bucking horse!). Sometimes bucking horses just stop bucking and I think the reason is that they just got used to the flank strap.
Two stories. We had a roping arena with a bucking chute. We would ride, rope, bulldog, etc. We had a great old roping horse that loved to buck. After we were done roping, hazing, and picking up with him we would put a bronc saddle on him and buck him out.
There is an old rag-tag rodeo company up north. They would always mount bulldoggers on their dogging horse. One week the old dogging horse came up lame. The same week one of their bucking horses stopped bucking.
You guessed it. The next week we were dogging on the former bucking horse!
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LOL
I don't know if I'd trust a horse like that. I tend to frown if they buck on me even once. LOL
I've heard a lot of time bucking horses are old sour horses that have learned that if they buck they won't get ridden. I don't know if that's true or not, just what I heard.
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01/17/10, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 6e
I've heard a lot of time bucking horses are old sour horses that have learned that if they buck they won't get ridden. I don't know if that's true or not, just what I heard.
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Not. Most "sour" ex-saddle horses actually don't buck hard enough or consistently enough to make rodeo strings.
Some bucking horses are actually bred now ... horses that are produced specifically in hopes of getting big, stout horses that like to buck and buck hard.
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01/17/10, 04:20 PM
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Actually, I do have to say that video that Peace posted was rather aggravating more than anything else. Accidents happen every day in many many sports. We either stop living all together lest someone get injured or killed. Granted, the horse was an innocent, but the men go in knowing good and well what the risks are and they take them. I've seen people get hurt at much more benign sports.
Oh, and something I just have to say..........the clown was not "throwing his hat at the horse". sigh The horse just happened to raise his head. But I will say this, why that man roped that bull is beyond me and honestly, that's the first time I've ever seen them rope a bull. Usually they just herd them out. That was odd.
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Sorry... I should have included a note with the link that you may want to ignore the comments!!! That's what I did anyway. I wasn't interested in what the anti-rodeo folks were writing, I just was shocked at the video and like I said, made the mistake of clicking the link.
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01/17/10, 04:32 PM
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It was scary ... and things happen so fast you don't have time to react when these kinds of things do happen.
I had an Angus cow sull up and get on the fight once when I was trying to bring her in to the corral ... she would turn back, I'd try to turn her back to the ranch and keep her going. She ended up turning on me, getting under my horse and "hooking" although without horns it wasn't particularly effective, although it lifted him off the ground ... he was catty enough and quick enough that he didn't go down.
And he was gutsy enough to keep going back and trying to turn her again, every time I asked. Yes ... I know ... not very bright on my part and I was definitely old enough to know better. Obviously, I'd have never tried it with anything that had horns.
They finally ended up going out with a stock trailer and two cowboys that could rope. they both roped her, dragged her into the trailer and hauled her to the auction yard!
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01/17/10, 05:10 PM
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I had a cow like that at a feedyard once except I was on foot! The way they had the pen set up the gate was 'uphill' and not a natural exit for the cattle so we really had to push to get them out. Well this one old heifer was NOT going to go out that gate and before long she decided that she'd had enough of us and came after me. Thankfully I was able to climb the fence but I'd probably still be a grease spot in that pen if she'd got to me! She was NOT playing! lol
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01/17/10, 07:48 PM
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Not. Most "sour" ex-saddle horses actually don't buck hard enough or consistently enough to make rodeo strings.
Some bucking horses are actually bred now ... horses that are produced specifically in hopes of getting big, stout horses that like to buck and buck hard.
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That sounds about right seeing as they raise bucking bulls specifically for that reason too. I used to watch bull riding all the time and my all time favorite bull was Bodacious.
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