H1N1 Flu Vaccinations

Gulf war syndrome has been partially traced to "Rushed" or "Experimental" vaccines. I love when people get vaccinated and say look I got my shot yesterday and no side effects... Well some of the side effects may not show up for months or years. I have to ask myself, if this is so good why are so many being forced to take it. There will be no shots for my family. This vaccine is far from being exactly like the regular flu shot with the H1N1 added for immunity. There were reports all over Yahoo, Fox and CNN a couple of months back talking about Nano particulates being used in the manufacture of this vaccine... Maybe they used NANO Technology, maybe they didn't. Read up on Nano particulates and risk if you feel like taking a thrill ride.

Before you ask me for links, please include a list of ingredients and chemicals used in the H1N1 Vaccine, if you have that list, then you know you are not at risk for neurological damage from the vaccine. If you do not have that list, then you are probably reading and listening to a Media that has lied and covered up so many other in the past year. Is long term risk for children worth anything. Before you go crazy searching, there is no known list of the ingredients for the H1N1 vaccine, and I for one will not stick anything into my child that I can't research first.

It was once said by a great man in American History: Those who will sacrifice their freedom for a little safety, don't deserve either, and will most certainly lose both.

Get the shot. But not simply because the school was reporting a single c ase of H1N1. Simply because I don't like the profile of the strain. Take the shot (it's a nearly "normal" flue shot), maybe get a bit sick from it, and go on with life.

There is a report on FoxNews this morning that the vaccine will be too late to keep people healthy. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568607,00.html
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Mark and Sara Cowperthwaite
Nathaniel, Virginia, Naomi, Samuel, and Josiah

By the way, we are all just getting over the flu now. From talking to the folks around here it is swine flu and another whole family had it. It really wiped us out and we all are continuing with nasty coughs. However none of us had major problems. Even my husband who is a severe ashmatic had no problems with the flu other than some pulled muscles and a secondary sinus infection.

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Mark and Sara Cowperthwaite
Nathaniel, Virginia, Naomi, Samuel, and Josiah

we've never done flu vaxes and won't start now. I've had flu exactly 2x in my life. The last time was about 6 years ago and I was pregnant. I lost that baby and to me it will always be because I had the flu that early in the pregnancy. The kids had it too. This was the year they were reporting so many flu deaths in children. We stayed in bed with water bottles, juice, and chapstick. If we get this flu we'll take the same approach. Unless I see something that actually warrants a visit to the doctor home is the best place when you're sick. Everyone here is basically healthy. Oldest dd gets everything that goes around but she gets over it quickly. The rest of us seldom get more than a cold once a year.

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But you never hear of anyone retiring and moving North.

The county gave free H1N1 vaccines at two of the high schools on Saturday. DD14 got the mist and I got the shot. DD16 had stayed over at a friend's house to get ready for Homecoming. I'll need to get her vaccinated this weekend as she is high risk (asthma). I was a little less energetic for 2 days, but otherwise everything is fine.

I wonder if the original small pox vaccines caused such an uproar or if people had seen loved ones die and were scared into getting unknown medicine?

I don't know about smallpox, but the polio vax did cause quite a stir.

Who did you expect to make money from people being sick? The automakers? Your local plumber? Of course they are making money... they are in the business of making sick people better. Of course, everyone also has the right to completely opt out of both treatment and prophylaxis.

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This is the reason (the only reason) we do not get seasonal and will not get this vaccine (other than the fact that 2 of us had H1N1 already). I spent too much money paying out of pocket to special order and purchase every single individual vaccine my dd has had in order to be positive they did not have Thimerosal in them. Our insurance would not pay for them (of course they wouldn't, because I was working for the company that MAKES Thimerosal). I thank my lucky stars we found a doctor that was on the no-vax, delayed-vax, selected-vax train.

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- Hussein ibn Ali, Grandson of the Prophet Mohammed

I think it's important to remember that this whole scare was initiated by an experiment in a litter box gone bad. Cats were looking for a way to leverage the loose change that they had found behind couch cushions into a fairly sizable nest egg to be used toward their devious plans.

They began mixing up the smell of ultimate evil using partially digested fish, chicken and rodents, mixed with super-heated clay. Their plan was to somehow distribute it over a large area and, then invest in hand sanitizer company stocks under the code name FIFI (feline investment for future insurrections).

Unfortunately, the litter box began stinking so badly that it was set outdoors where its contents were devoured by unsuspecting pigs. The evil mutated in the swine's digestive systems, creating the calamity we face, today.

Part of their devious plan did work. They were able to parlay $2.47 in pocket change to more than $3.4 million because folks have been buying all the hand sanitizer that companies can make.

So, it's probably a good idea to get the H1N1 vaccination, now.

The cats have plenty of cash and there's a slight chance that this vaccine might also provide a small amount of protection against the H131N131 flu when the cats release that.

oggie LOL

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We're getting the vaccine, it bothers me when people say well it's not a big deal, this H1N1 is like the regular flu no biggie.. Try saying that to a parent that has lost a child to it. I read there were 11 kids that died from it just last week, and a few of them had no underlying conditions. A 5 yr old boy and a 14 yr old girl both from Texas.
One shot is worth it to me, if that means keeping everyone healthy then you bet i will be in line for it.

My sister is a teacher outside of Cincinnati and a little girl in her school just died of it. She was a healthy child before she contracted the flu.

I also just heard from my other sister in Cincy...my 7 year old asthmatic nephew has been diagnosed with H1N1. So far, he's doing well...they have him on Tamiflu.

I think it's pretty well proven that this flu is killing people and in greater numbers than seasonal flu.

I think it's pretty well UN proven that the vaccine is deadly.

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Yup. I wish my nephew could have gotten it sooner. My daughter gets it on 11/3 at school.

Why do they always say that the flu vaccine "might" protect you against this year's strain, because it is almost impossible to figure out what will be coming around? They say it takes 1 year to make the shot so when they do see what strain is coming around it is too late to change the vaccine. Now they make this swine flu shot in less than 6 months and it is going to protect us from the swine flu!!!?? I totally believe in vaccinations, but only for things that are pretty certain to protect you. Don't like flu shots or chicken pox shots that are very ineffective. Haven't really thought about getting the H1N1 shot. Right now they are only giving it to high risk people & it is hard to come by. I do believe it will arrive too late to protect many people.

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Yeah it's already out there, alot of schools are seeing it.. In Ludington Mi they had 300 kids out with flu symptoms so i'm sure it's what they have. But if it helps some then it's worth it.

Well, IMO and from what the research says (not sensational paranoid reporting) most of what has been reported as H1N1 isnt really H1N1. I am equally amazed when people use anecdotes like "I have a friend that..." to base their decisions. You need to research credible medical sources and make your decisions based on that information and your personal circumstances.

A killed virus doesnt make you sick, I have been getting the flu shot since they became available in the 1980s and hear this every year but its medically impossible. A live virus CAN make you sick though which is something to consider when using the mist.

Getting a flu shot boosts your bodily immunities against this virus, claiming that not getting the shot boosts your immunities is just not true. You can build up immunities without the shot of course but the shot doesnt interfere with that.

The regular flu kills about 30K in this country every year and it looks like swine flu wont even reach that mark but it does target a different demographic population than seasonal flu which should influence your decision.

My family has chosen to get both the seasonal flu and H1N1 shot and I personally have seen no ill effects but I have been concerned about the rush to market this shot and some conflicting information coming out of the CDC and particularly the Canadian CDC. For us, we were more concerned about the flu than the shots because we have family that have died of the flu and for us the risks were outweighed by the devastation that even seasonal flu can bring on a body.

Its a personal choice and I respect everyones decision to get it or not, just get your information from a variety of medical sources and go from there.

Does anyone remember personally or has researched the effects of the original H1N1 vaccine, released in 1976? The stats on that one are astounding. 1 in every 100,000 people receiving the vaccine developed Gullien Barr Syndrome - resulting in extreme paralysis and death. More people died from the vaccine, than from the actual H1N1 flu.

Honest question, though....why? Was it just that we weren't good enough at making a flu vaccine at that point, or was it a problem with making a vaccine for this particular strain of flu?

I also found this article from Canada. Most people will probably discount it as a non-credible source, but I don't know. Definitely something to think about, especially the part about the vaccine only being required to work in 3 out of 10 people who receive it.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=14950