H1N1 Flu Vaccinations

Joshie was right on about the hysteria regarding the H1N1 vaccine. Same manufacturers and same system of making the seasonal flu vaccine.

Here in Southern Colorado we have been in the midst of a horrible H1N1 outbreak. Several schools have closed temporarily and many we know are sick. Since I work at the health department I received my mist version on Tuesday. No problems with it. However, I'm 45 years old and may already have some immunity.

My concern is with infants under 6 months of age and children with underlying health issues. Many are correct in saying the H1N1 is similiar to seasonal flu, but already there have been many more H1N1 children deaths early in the season, than all of last years seasonal flu deaths. The vast majority of people who are sick with H1N1 are miserably ill for three days, miss school for a whole week and then begin to expose everyone around them.

Once again, it's a personal choice but for me and my family, they will be immunized as soon as possible. I have a daughter in high school who has always struggled academically and being out a whole week would move her hard won D's to F's.

I hope you plan on staying far away from children and pregnant women for the next 21 days, as you WILL be contagious with H1N1 for that period of time. This goes for anyone receiving the nasal mist vaccine. You won't have symptoms, but you will be contagious and risk infecting anyone you come into contact with. It makes me angry that people risk other's health for their own sakes. Grrrr.


As to the original question, no we will not be vaccinating. I am working on our immune systems with lots of vitamin c, probiotics, herbs, exercise, fresh air, and plenty of sleep. If we do contract it, I'm confident we will be fine, and we'll be protected from any future outbreaks in case it mutates and becomes worse. Next year, if this strain looks more serious, I might consider vaccinating. After all, the 1918 strain was a direct ancestor of H1N1, so no one knows for sure what *might* happen. As for right now, it's just the flu hyped up on a good dose of media/pharmaceutical company steroids.

I prefer natural immunity to any illness, which is what you will get if you do get this flu, or even if you are exposed to it but don't have serious symptoms.

Please post a credible source that the the nasal mist recipient is contagious for 21 days.

This credible source (and several others) state similar information:
The nasal mist form has a tiny amount of a live flu virus in it. Anyone who gets the nasal mist vaccine will be contagious for a day or two.

(Another credible source)
In clinical studies, transmission of vaccine viruses to close contacts has occurred only rarely. The current estimated risk of getting infected with vaccine virus after close contact with a person vaccinated with the nasal-spray flu vaccine is low (0.6%-2.4%). Because the viruses are weakened, infection is unlikely to result in influenza illness symptoms since the vaccine viruses have not been shown to mutate into typical or naturally occurring influenza viruses.

I take it you or your family has never had a cold and allowed to be around other people? Or you never drive a car? My health is more at risk of driving to work and dying from a car accident then I am from catching the flu from someone who had a nasal mist shot...

Really, it is all in perspective. In a world where the human body is inundated daily with chemicals, pesticides and pollution from everything in the food we eat, to the furniture we sit on, to the air we breath....these things you should be more worried about then the minute odds of getting the flu from a person who had a nasal shot...

We're waiting at least a few weeks to see if there are side effects. I don't like the way they rushed this to market. Should be fine, much like other vaccines, but I'm not volunteering to test it for the drug companies. Easier to just quarantine the planet, er, I mean stay on our mountain. Same thing.

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I'll get the H1N1 vac. as soon as it is available. Already had my regular flu shot. I get them every year and have for at least the past 10 or 15 years. I agree the conspiracy theorists are just going wild over this. It isn't any different than any other vaccine, some people have reactions and some even die from them but many, many more die or have reactions from the disease.

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And then think that their vaccinated child will contract something deadly from my unvaccinated child. That's another favorite of mine.

We've had our seasonal flu vaccines as we always do and will get the H1N1 vaccine as soon as it's available. Our kids and grandkids will too.

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I got pnuemonia from having the flu and almost died when I was 32. I sure don't want to relive ANYTHING like that again!!! I WILL take the shot as soon as it is available and be grateful!!!

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No shots here and anybody can have mine that wants it. I've lived all these years without a flu shot, and I see no reason to start now.

This link might be helpful to some folks:

http://occupationalhealth.vanderbilt...luenza-vaccine

As I understand it, you will almost certainly NOT be contagious with H1N1 after receiving either the shot or the nasal vaccine; you do NOT need to stay away from children and pregnant women; there IS a theoretical risk of flu transmission to severely immunocompromised people, so health care workers who care for them (and newborns) are advised to get the flu shot (killed virus vaccine) instead of the (live but attenuated virus) nasal spray.

I'm not sure if I'll get the flu shot(s) this year, but I'll look into it since I'm a nurse. I plan to stay home from work if I feel sick, but there's always the chance I'd have such a mild case that I wouldn't know it and would unwittingly pass it on to someone who couldn't fight it off as well as I can.

Or it means that since he has such a strong immune system (he has been in public daycare and private daycare since he was 5 weeks old) that his immune system will be able to fight off the swine flu.

He has already been exposed to folks that have taken the live flumist (live h1n1 vaccine that sheds for 21 days), that his immune system is already building up the immunity

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Credible source that the nasal mist is contagious for 21 days .... check the 'experitment' they did on the preschool children. Sure, only 1 out of the 24 caught the h1n1 virus, but it's enough fo rme.

The 'credible source' that I found was on the medical sheet available with the live virus vaccine.

I don't think idt was an 'error' that the gooberment released the live virus vaccine before the killed virus. What better way to endorse a federal healdth care bill then to get a lot of people sick in this country.

Tin foil hat time?? Maybe .... then again, maybe not.

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Very true and if a person is that concerned about it Get the injection for pete's sake. That is a killed virus. and anybody over 49 will get the injection version in the first place. It is just people from 2 through 49 that can get the nasal formation.
Like I said if a person is that worried just ask for a "shot" for the H1N1 protection, case closed.

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We got our seasonal flu shot 2 weeks ago and hope to get the H1N1 vaccine soon.

Why?

Asthma Most Common Condition in Hospitalized Swine Flu Patients (Washington Post)

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I've never gotten a seasonal flu shot and won't start now. I very rarely get sick, even when around someone with full blown flu. I like to think it's because my body has built up natural immunity.

Last year a pregnant woman I go to school with got the flu shot at the insistance of her doctor. She then missed the next two weeks of school because she had........the flu. Would she have gotten it anyway? Who knows. Could be a great big coincidence.

The great thing about this country, right now, is that we have a choice. I can choose not to get it and you can choose to get it. Neither one of us are wrong in our choices.

Drugmakers, Doctors Rake in Billions Battling H1N1 Flu

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/big-b...ory?id=8820642

Imagine my surprise at learning that doctors and pharmaceuticals are getting rich on the flu.

I read somewhere that those that have died from the swine flu are those that have been getting the flu shots regularly. In other words, these vaccines are doing nothing other than destroying immune systems. No flushots here, either! I will go to jail before they force it on us, as well.

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I absolutely would take advantage of being vaccinated. The mortality rate in your son's age group from H1N1 is way higher than that of the seasonal flu.

The thing that scares me the most about the vaccine is the amount of Mercury in it.

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opin...b770a0a41.html

Our Doctor confirmed that it does contain Thimerosal. Which is the part with the mercury