AArrrgh - MEN - rant!!!

How much are you paying your boss to put up your hay?

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Why is it that when a single specimen of the male gender cranks off a member of the female gender, said female feels free to blame the entire male gender?

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Now I will show that I'm full male. They always blame us all don't you know that by now. We males all take a beating every time one gets mad at a male. It's been the same all my life. Even when a good guy tries to help a woman and she is mad at one male, all of us take a hit even the good guy trying to help. I think that it has always been that way and better get use to it as I only see it staying that way forever.
Now let the fireworks fly.
Hillbillybob

Q: Why is it that when a single specimen of the male gender cranks off a member of the female gender, said female feels free to blame the entire male gender?

A: Experience.

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More like poor aim...............

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I have no idea how much I am paying him. I won't know until it's all in and he does me a bill.

Why do I take aim at all men - I guess on this occasion it is because I see this one as a male trait - "I must do everything, my pride won't let you go to anyone else, I am the only one tha tcan make your hay, you can't possibly manage on to do things on your own because you are female" etc. etc. I think on this one, it does strike me as being a male characteristic that's all

But i apologise to all men out there who would not react in his way

hoggie

Somehow I missed this one yesterday - I would be quite happy to do my own hay but I don't have my own machinery - irony is I am paying him to pay me to do the job with his machinery

The stand up fight we nearly had in the field yesterday was because I suggested that, as he is so busy, I pay the farmer to do the bedding bales.

I am NOT asking for freebies - NOT needing him to look after me - I AM needing to have enough hay to look after my animals

hoggie

Eww, honey - what a situation.

You could: a) quit and get a new job
b) marry him and make him do what he's told



Sorry - couldn't resist. I think perhaps if he has a 'thing' about your hair (that creeps me out), is trying to tell you how to run your farm, controls your work environment - you should take a good hard look. How healthy is this situation?

Braid the ponytail and tell him it is "a weapon of defense".
I've been in your position before - next time he wants to be picky on the hay - tell him that he is acting like a "woman"! <VBG>

It might just be the way we women present our ideas to some men. Men's brains are wired differently, and they are direct and to the point problem solvers. When they see our presentation as a request to solve a problem, they tell us how they think we should solve it. Sorta, "Problem + Solution = Done Deal"

Women on the other hand, sometimes don't so much want the problem solved as much as they want another person's idea or thoughts. And because we're wired to be caregivers, we are careful about how we present our ideas because the last thing we want is to not be seen as caring. In our being careful we sometimes (not always) seem to have a problem which needs to be solved to some men (not all men)...so the results we get seem like the man is trying to take control, or telling us what to do. But in his mind he's "Problem + solution = done deal."

Yes, I did just say that men seem to think in simpler terms, they can't help it they're wired that way.

I'm still trying out my theory that men don't need all the explaining, billed up, whatever it is we do, they need as few words as possible (it's a throw back from the day when the saber toothed tiger came into the cave - the need for quick thinking kept humans from becoming extinct) ...it's saved a lot of time so far, and no one has complained about my not being overly caring

So Hoggie, just tell the man that it's not a problem you need his help with, you need for him to put into action the solution you are happy with.

Hugs,
Marlene

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OK - well - I still have a job.

I got to work this morning and we were both a little "stiff" with each other to begin with but we had obviously both decided to leave our argument where it was - yesterday. Having said that my hay was already being turned by the time I got to work and will probably be turned again this pm and baled tomorrow.

In spite of his quirks (which drive me mad sometimes I admit) we usually get on OK. I have always been able to "sit on my hands" with people and usually when he starts on about stuff I can switch off But from time to time I do need to make a stand.

However there is a sequel to this story which should almost be a thread on its own, it was so funny but as it is the follow on to this thread I will post it here.

After coffee this morning, having carefully avoided anything controversial all morning, we went out to the field to play with the baler ready for some stuff he has to do later. We got it uncovered and were moving a few bits when suddenly I felt a tickle just below my knee. I thought I had somehow stood on a piece of long grass so I brushed it away. Then it RAN further up my leg I tried to brush it away again and it just kept coming - what on earth is THAT? By now it was half-way up my thigh so I did the only thing I could in the circumstances, I grabbed it through my jeans so I had a sort of mixed handful of jeans with the WHATEVER inside that handful. Oh yes - and I did a lot of swearing

Now - we don't have snakes and we don't have poisonous spiders but I really did NOT feel comfortable with an unknown intruder climbing up inside my jeans leg, and I certainly wasn't going to let go of it.

My boss thought it was a bee at first, I said no - feels more like a massive spider. So he said "you're going to have to come behind the tractor and take your jeans down but it was true - it was the only way out of it. Peeled my jeans down low enough to turn out my masked intruder to find .................. a shrew!!!!

Well - we both fell about laughing - took quite a while for my pulse to return to safe levels - but we are talking again. I feel it may take me FOREVER to live this one down - I think the first coherent words out of my boss's mouth were "wait till I tell the boys I got you to take your jeans off in the field". And I can sense all sorts of cuddly shrews coming along at Christmas time

I still have major long term stuff to deal with here - I might consider a change of job - or at least get a lot tougher with what I let my boss get away with. But for now - I still have a job, and boss and I can laugh at each other again.

hoggie

I'll explain it in very few words........men are strange!

I won't go into it right now because of the language I'd use BUT I was so frustrated with Roger yasterday, I would have beaten him to within an inch of his life with a sharp stick!

a shrew!!!!!.....that is so funnnnnnyyyyyyy.

men and women are both strange creatures for sure.....this includes me...lol...people will be people...so jsut keep the line drawn of what you expect from the other person or dont expect from them.the more we communicate the clearer the picture will be for the other person.but for now i got a bad image of a girl with her pants down behind the tractor ......lol.

when we work in the field,forest and on the waters for a living we all can have a few troubles along the way.

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I really got a kick out of your response. Most men are good. There are just a few that spoil the bunch. Thanks for the laugh this morning, it was nice to see a man on here sticking up for their own species. And I mean that in the nicest of ways.

To the poster:

PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN or you are no better than this (can't say it here) person. Just be really firm honey. Get the job done. Pretend YOU are a man telling him to get the job done, and it will get done. That is something I learned from men. Bless their hearts.

Most the time we just have to look the situation over,then set and think it over,then look,scratch,look some more,have a Beer talk about it some.Walk out and look,talk it over,wait abit maybe things will change.Make a Phone call,talk it over,go back out and look.

By this time it is Deer Season,get right on it soon as we got enough meat

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[QUOTE=elkhound]a shrew!!!!!.....that is so funnnnnnyyyyyyy.

Methinks it brings whole new meaning to "The taming of the shrew" Wonder who planted the poor animal under the baler

hoggie

That sounds familiar LOL

hoggie

I agree patnewmex - most are good. Sorry to any guys who felt my comment was too much of a generalization. Same as when one kid acts up, mum throws her arms in the air and says "huh - KIDS" That was all I meant

hoggie we Yanks don't quite comprehend the British man, and the Channel Island man even less (are they similar? Do you know?) One of my boss/teachers was a Guernseyman and he was a charming lech, but so were several other men I met over there (luckily not my real boss). I found that the English women were very tame polite submissive and sweet and the men were pretty taken aback when I behaved forthrightly outspoken American- think I got a lot mroe communicated but sometimes it just backfired because they were too grumpy at me. Sometimes I'd get a vicious attack of "You want to be one of the men?!? I'll treat you like one of the men!" not said directly but my best interpretation of their words not physical actions.

Anyway are you as I describe English women or can you tell? and other Channel Island women? And I think American techniques/advice for managing men are not so effective in the UK and Ch Isl.

I think I just discovered the difference between men and women..............

My "hunting clothes" consists of layers, between 2 and 8 depending on the weather. One recent hunting season I took a nap in the grass. Had about 4 layers (give or take). Next day I could feel something moving about. Didn't worry too much about it, and about 6 hours later the little vermin made it's way to my collar and I captured it and put it in my pocket. (fed it some of my sandwich). When I got together with my buddies I showed them the offender, we had a laugh, and I liberated it with a full belly. No screaming, no stripping, no panic. Here is the difference between men and women. All men will see the sense in this. None of the women will.

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