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Old 08/10/07, 09:56 AM
 
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As to the original question.........Terrible, egocentric, money grubbing, arrogant and self serving........yeh, I would agree with that.LOL As far as degenerative healthcare is concerned(in the allopath world).......there are only 2 tricks in the bag......drugs and surgery.........of course in many cases that is what is gonna keep you alive...........

When entities like the AMA, FDA and the government are all entangled what can we expect but.......the worst......less freedom in choices......more control......less personal care.......one gets all caught up in the chaos and mirely mud of the system.

This is WHY.......wellness centers that feature nutrition/massage/hydrotherapy/acupuncture/reflexology/yoga/chiropractic ect ect. are becoming and will become the healing centers of the future. More personal attention to each individual and to the whole person.

Preventative health.......take charge of your own health......eat right......loose weight....exercise......learn to manage stress........

Of course there will always be those who DON'T want to take care of themselves and then want a quick fix.......that's their choice......just not a wise one.
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Old 08/10/07, 12:58 PM
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Medicare pays for 80% of what THEY decide is a "reasonable charge"..OK, so that means that you pay the rest out of pocket..ever price durable medical equipment? Ever price "Medicare Gap" insurance? $295/month and a wait of 2 years for them to pay a dime on your "pre-existing condition"..LOL..soooo, there you are, after working for 40+ years and your savings are gone.."poof"..and if you can afford to pay that $295/month, you can wait another 2 years before it will be of any use to you whatsoever. Sweet, eh? .

Durable medical equipment is outrageous!! Like I already stated in one post, my DD's wheelchair, $7000. Leg braces $900-1200. And her special formula, that's $700 a month.
So I am sure that in no time what you had in savings probably was wiped out in nothing flat!!



Here's another thought, for those who gripe about others who get state aid because they don't make alot of money.
Prison inmates get FREE medical care. Yup, at the expense of taxpayers. They also get FREE dental to boot. All the while a hard working law abiding citizen who just happens to not make enough to afford it, gets nothing, but yet gets the finger pointed at them.

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Old 08/10/07, 03:00 PM
 
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Trixi, do you pay tips in restaurants? Do you eat in restaurants that add on the tip automatically? It's the same thing.

Waitresses are not paid enough for the work they do, but the restaurant and the client would not survive without them (unless you go to a fast food place where you stand in line to get your food and then clean up your own mess on the way out)...so the waitress is providing an essential service to the community, both in keeping the restaurant thriving, and keeping the customers happy (because they don't have to stand in lines for their food)...yet the waitress, without the tips, cannot live on the wages alone. And you would say that's fine, because a worker is only worth what the business can or will pay.

That waitress does not make enough (without tips) to pay taxes, or buy health care, or insurance...or probably even have a place to live...but they work very hard for the money they do make (the tips). They are NOT lazy bums trying to rip off your hard earned money. The tips are given freely or not depending on the establishment. The capitalist robbers now want to make the tips mandatory to the customer because that way they get to lower the wages even more since they consider the tips part of minimum wage.

So, society, if they want the service provided by the waitress, who is unskilled labor, but still a desirable part of the community, will dish over the tips, or waitresses would quit waiting...or restaurants would have to go to cafeteria style, or go out of business.

Every part of society is a necessary or obligatory part of the whole. And everyone needs to be fed and housed and kept healthy, or the whole thing crumbles. If capitalism allows people to be paid less than it costs to live and care for themselves, then society which allows this uncontrolled capitalism is going to have to make up the difference...or the whole capitalist system fails too. Capitalism depends on the poor. If they all die off of starvation or illness, it dies too.

This is a very simplistic example of one way a society is interconnected...there is a lot more complexity to it. But thinking only about yourself and how everything affects you does not complete the picture. Oh...and without society, your money is worthless...you can have a room full of it with no place to spend it.

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Old 08/10/07, 04:15 PM
 
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Fiddlekat, please understand I am not asking this to be snarky or offend, but am genuinely curious. Why would a child in a wheelchair need leg braces? Conversely, why would a child who can walk in leg braces need a $7000 wheelchair? Are they hoping she will learn to walk?
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