In your neck of the woods : having to "register" to buy cold medicine?

Buy ahead of time, then, so that you don't need to rush to the store when someone gets sick but already have meds at home. That way you can buy small quantities over an extended time period and not run over the limits.

Your mom is very brave, purchasing federally monitored drugs and then sending them, I take it, though the mail to a foreign country ....has Home Land Security visited her yet?

Sorry, I just like messing with people who come up with conspiracy theories and then live as if they are facts.

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Marlene

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I agree the intent is good but ineffective. Sure the new law has cut down on lab busts but not the labs themselves. The only ones getting busted were the ones stupid enough to walk into Wal-Mart and buy a buggy full of Sudafed at a time. The smarter ones can and do still get their ephidrene from underground wholesalers not the local pharmacy. It is very common in my region for the meth makers to go to Atlanta or Florida and purchase $30,000 or more worth of cold meds at one time from underground distributors. The only thing I have seen the new law do is make it harder to catch the cooks and make it harder for me to get the meds for my family. My 2 year old daughter came down with a horrible fever one night and I couldn't even get chldrens motrin at Wal-Mart because the pharmacy had already closed.

It bugged me at first. Then I realized that the government could make it require a prescription like other controlled meds. That would be a big pain in the neck and cost more by the time you go to the md. It seems to have helped some with the meth labs which bother me more than signing for sudafed.

LOL, here come the men in black lol

We're in America for the summer so I'm just getting used to all the new stuff again.

Kat

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Not something I've run into - with my high blood pressure, I can't take cold meds.

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But the meth addicts still have their source. And the meth manufacturers have found another source.

THis still punishes the law abiding people rather thatn the meth heads.

In Alaska you can only buy psuedoephedrine in the pharmacy. You do have to fill out some kind of paperwork.This is a problem!

It was late at night and the Influenza A virus had just hit me. I couldn't take the head/sinus pressure any longer. I got to Wal-Mart pharmacy and they were already closed. Got to Fred Meyer and they were sold out. By then all the other pharmacies in the city were closed. I had to SUFFER through it until I was well enough to go shopping again. I ended up having to take Vicodin for the pain.

I am also very upset with Wal-mart about the sales of Infant Tylenol/Motrin. They will not sell it to anyone under 18. What do you do when you are a teen-aged parent with a baby who has a fever???

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Just me, but I doubt it really has anything effect on the amount of drugs being manufactured - not sure it was intended to.

So far, very little the government has done in the name of the 'war on drugs' has had any effect.

As someone has said, Mexico is sending it in here by the truck loads. I read an article not long ago about how much cold medicene is sent to Mexico - it is staggering. Yet this country still continues to treat Mexico like it is somehow a sacred cow that we mustn't upset.

Yes, it may be soon that everyone will have to go to the doctor to get a prescription for these medications - hmmmmmmmmmm?? unintended consequences - or intended consequences???

I am not a 'conspiracy' person - I am a reason person. If you listen, read and think enough, you will usually figure out the real reason something is being done. It is seldom, if ever, the reason given by our people in power.

Yes, but now they are helping the Mexican economy, and that is very important if we are going to slow down the illegal immigration problem.

If someone is going in to buy one box of cold medicine, probably not enough to send the red flags up. But someone buying alot, will.

We can thank the criminals for it.

Yeah but you can buy all the beer you want during that shopping excursion. Meth labs might be down but the meth supply is showing no signs of decreasing. Just making money for out of country drug dealers now.

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Ds uses sudafed for his allergies. Used to be all I had to do was sign the paper. Now they record my dl# and Lord knows what all else when I pick it up for him. If they want my firstborn then they'll have to provide his allergy meds. (we've tried all the other allergy meds, nothing else works)

Did he have his tin foil hat on when he told you this?

We have gone to finding more herbal treatments to help when we are ill. Too much of a waste of my time to try to purchase those things now.
God Bless,
Michele

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The regulation May have cut production in one area - or maybe it went underground - but from what I hear, it hasn't cut the supply. But how does one know it is due to this particular regulation?

As for the 'culling the herd' idea - that does seem farfetched - but I dismiss anything anymore -

Except - the idea the government is doing something for 'our own good' - now that's too big a leap for me.

In Oregon, like Alaska, you have to have a prescription to buy Sudafed. In WA, you can still go to the pharmacy counter for your 2 boxes. I care for meth addicts all the time (medical floor RN), and I'd be willing to do just about anything to get rid of the meth problem. Unfortunately, I just don't know if the new laws are really helping. Sure haven't seen a decrease in the meth epidemic here.

I wasnt going to chime in, but here goes:

There was a Frontline TV show about the meth problem. Any one see it? Extremely interesting!!! I have also read some other articles about this.

From the way I understand it, the requirement to sign and the keeping of sudafed behind the counter has had a major effect in slowing the meth problem. It is keeping the small meth lab from popping up at any time.

There used to be people who bought sudafed from every store in town. It is refered to as 'smurfing'. I understand these people would go from store to store, buying absolutely all they could buy. One Walgreens might have 50-100 boxes on the shelf.
Do this at 20 stores, and you could have 1000-2000 boxes, which would make alot of meth.

So in order to stop this, the state governments chose to be effective, and put requirements on the ability to purchase sudafed. I don't think it is federal law, but state laws. Indiana didn't start until last year some time, and it was a controversial law when it started.

The problem is that while the mom and pop variety of meth makers are restricted, there is nothing stopping the importation of sudafed to the big meth manufacturers. In fact, because it is so profitable, some of the big name pharmacutical companies...names that you have heard before, got into the game of supplying sudafed in BULK, to the major players in the meth market. These pharm companies have gone so far that they actually started supplying the sudafed in large plastic containers, so the meth labs wouldn't have to take them out of the plastic/foil packages!!!!

As previously stated, massive quantities are available across the border in Mexico, and the meth-heads are buying sudafed in bulk. The TV showed case lots available.

The really smart, well conected meth labs can buy it direct from India, already in powder form. I understand they can buy it in 55 gallon drum quantities.

So now, the states are restricting what the individual can buy, but no one is controlling the wholesale side of the sudafed business that caters to the big meth labs. I suspect this is why plenty of meth is still available on the drug market.

Frontline also touched on another part of the problem, and I can't really remember all the details, but here is the bottom line:
Someone in the Fed drug czar agency, has basically refused to pressure and lean on the major manufacturers of sudafed for restricting its sales. Most of these manufacturers are abroad, the biggest is in India, and I think another is in France. For whatever reason, negligence as they point out, the drug czar will not tackle this problem, and basically ignores that it is happening. (Kinda makes me wonder why).

All in all, I dont mind to be inconvenienced. I am not a criminal, and don't care to ask for something behind the counter. Heck, you can follow me home, and watch me take it if you want.

Clove