electric help, got shocked at home

[xbigp]

so i have a propane range installed in my counter, next to it is an in wall electric double oven. tonight i took a metal pan from the oven and sat it across 2 burners(turned off) on the stove to slice the meat to check its done. soon as knife went through meat and touched the pan BAM bad shock bit tongue threw me backwards into other counter, big headache, big jolt the whole 9 yards.
so i get to thinking about iit, the electric igniter system on the propane cook top dont work right and have been disconnected from electricity for years so that is out of the picture.
i got my multi meter out and used the non-contact voltage meter to scope out the area. near the electric oven of course it went bonkers. i tried all around the propane cook top area with no sign of electric until i got near the actual burners, not the grates, on the propane cook top. they have alot of juice running to them

so whats the deal with this? maybe a short somewhere inline with the electric oven near where i got shocked? any ideas are greatly appreciated thank you

edited to add we've been using this setup for years with no previous issues

[Darren]

How are the burners on your propane stove getting energized? Do you have any electric lines near the tank or the supply line?

[farmrbrown]

Two things to check first.

The wires to your igniter, make sure the wires to them haven't gotten frayed or made contact.

Check the incoming propane gas line over the whole length of it for any possible contact with an electrical wire.

That's the only things I can think of off hand that would mimic the result you had, the burners only giving a shock.
And double check the grounding on the stove too.

[Blackwolfe]

Step 1-- The igniter wire's, if they will never be used again then strip them out of the top completely, if you can't then elect tape both of them together then use a big wire nut to terminate it and if you can get to where the wires would be hooked up to AC do the same tape and but. Check with meter, not hot then its fixed. Still hot step 2

Step 2-- As farmbrown said check propane line, if you can't get to every inch of it then start at the propane tank, check it first, then check every inch you can all the way to the cook top, also check any other propane appliance, going back to the tank or tanks it should be grounded, if not then ground it, also check the oven to see if it has a ground, if not you should put one, a solid copper 12awg wire from back of oven to the closest water pipe " But Not Until You Find The Source of the elect bleed. If all the gas line's check out go to step 3.

Step 3-- Take two aspirins and call me in the morning ;-)

Just kidding, if you have not found the source by this point then be safe and call a Master Electrician.

[xbigp]

thanks for the replies. after checking some more, i found the voltage in the burners only to be present when the electric oven is turned on. i checked the propane line coming in to the cook top for voltage but it didnt show any. maybe the oven isnt grounded, or is shorted across to the stove somehow?
may have an electrician look at it so i dont blow the joint up

[farmrbrown]

Originally Posted by xbigp

thanks for the replies. after checking some more, i found the voltage in the burners only to be present when the electric oven is turned on. i checked the propane line coming in to the cook top for voltage but it didnt show any. maybe the oven isnt grounded, or is shorted across to the stove somehow?
may have an electrician look at it so i dont blow the joint up

OK, good info.

I suspect you have a power-to-ground short in your electric oven, maybe something as simple as a hot wire touching the ground in the outlet it's plugged into, or possibly at the connection of the cord where it goes in the back.

The way that would work is, when that short-to-ground travels thru the kitchen circuit, it reaches your gas stove either thru a shared ground or a metal component like the gas line or frame.

[cowboyt]

time for a new stove!