How to remove these garden cart wheels

[capecupcake]

I have had this cart since I was a kid and the wheels are rusted and only one has rubber on it. I found replacement wheels but I can't get the wheels off the axle. The ring right around the axle is fixed to the axle.

[ace admirer]

use grinder or flat file to chamfer the axle.
use emery cloth to remove any rust on the exposed part of the axle.
purchase a can of liquid wrench and follow directions on the can (apply and tap with small hammer)....remember patience is required....sometimes hours of it......

if that does not work.....light up a torch and heat-cool the bearing until it releases .....or you burn up the thing beyond repair...."if you cannot fix it....fix it so it cannot be fixed"

[agmantoo]

What you are referring to as a ring is actually the inner race of the bearing IMO.

Is the axle a single rod that goes from one side of the cart to the other or is the axle(s) two separate pieces?

I would not damage the axle or wheel attempting to get the wheel off as someone may know how. Patience may have its reward.

[agmantoo]

Apply penetrating oil to the joint of the axle to the inner race. Let that soak. Put a short piece of pipe or a large socket over the axle stub and butt the pipe/socket against the "ring" and tap the setup driving the wheel inward. Once the wheel shifts inward you should see a broken off cotter key in the axle.

[agmantoo]

Is this the replacement wheel you located?
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...ssearch=145123

[po boy]

Maybe what agmantoo said. Do you see bearings anywhere on the shaft?

and welcome to the forum..

[HermitJohn]

I agree with the poster above who said that ring is the inner bearing race. It is a little sleeve about half inch long.

It is being held on by a pin of some sort. This isnt a pressed on bearing.

Here is your original pic with what I think maybe one end of the pin circled in red. You will need a pin punch or at least a nail of some sort to push it on through. I suspect it originally a cotter pin and somebody broke head and tail off trying to remove it.

[carasel]

Between 11 and 12 o'clock position on the axle. Is that bump,the head of a cotter pin or pressure pin? It could be holding the wheel on.
I can't get the pic big enough/clear enough to tell.
If it is. See if you can straighten out the other end and pull it out or use a flat ended punch and gently tap it out. You may need to grind off one end to tap it out.

[agmantoo]

I believe you guys are correct and possibly that is the two ends of the cotter pin bent against the axle. Here is another view of low quality

[capecupcake]

Thank you so much for all of the replies and the warm welcome. Let me answer some questions: This is a one piece axle. I looked closely again at the area you circled and I don't see any remnants of a pin. I also looked on the opposite side of that wheel and the other wheel and there are no pins. I think what you are seeing is one of many indentations I made while whacking the *&$% out of this thing. I did put some oil on it and then tried to persuade the "ring" to move. I have taken some more pics of both wheels, including the opposite sides. On the one pic you can see a cap on the end of the axle. The one on the other end has been removed. I am having a problem removing this one. My personality will not let me give up on this. I really appreciate any help. It almost seems that there is some sort of ridge or something on that "ring" behind the next ring that is holding the wheel on. Sorry if this is confusing.

[agmantoo]

capecupcake

Seeing the backside pic puts a different light on the issue. That partial clip seems to indicate that the manufacturer had some type of rig to perform dual purpose. The device not only locked the wheel on it located the inner race without have to do any machining of a round rod. Do you think the new wheels will fit that old axle?. I would think the axle is worn out of round where the wheel mounts.

[capecupcake]

The axle is rusted, but is otherwise in great shape. I am not sure what it is like under the wheels though. I tried looking for a new axle, but the only one I found was too expensive. The axle is 5/8".

[oneokie]

The last 2 pics in your last post show that the inner bearing is rusted to the axle shaft. You will need to soak both bearings and the shaft in a penetrating oil. Those pics also show that there is an inner and outer bearing. The axle shaft between those bearings is also probably rusted. If you have a way of heating those inner races to red hot, they may move. My suggestion is to use a cutting torch to cut them off the shaft. Or use a grinder with a cutoff wheel.

You will also need to dress up the end of the shaft where you have been beating on it to slide the old wheel off the shaft or before you install the new wheel.

[agmantoo]

oneokie

On the pics of the backside, what it that thin outer sleeve in the first pic?

[oneokie]

That is the inner race of the bearing if you are refering to the sleeve that is closest to the axle.

[agmantoo]

oneokie

Not the inner race. Look in post #10 pics 1 and 2 starting at top. Heavy sheet metal like item looks like a seal but the inner part is in the wrong location of the bearing to be a dust seal.

[oneokie]

Pics 1 & 2 in post # 10 are not of the back side. Those are pics of the other wheel on the opposite end of the axle, the wheel with the good rubber tire.

Are you refering to the butterfly shaped piece of metal?

from post # 10

On the one pic you can see a cap on the end of the axle. The one on the other end has been removed.

[oneokie]

Originally Posted by capecupcake

The axle is rusted, but is otherwise in great shape. I am not sure what it is like under the wheels though. I tried looking for a new axle, but the only one I found was too expensive. The axle is 5/8".

Check at a farm supply store, a metal supplier, or machine shop for 5/8" cold roll rod. That will be sufficient for a new axle. If you did not damage the cap when you removed it, that cap and the one on the opposite end of the axle can be reused to retain the new wheels on the new axle.

[agmantoo]

My error with the backside location statement. I watch tv as I type and that is the results. I believe the butterfly appearing item is holding the wheel onto the axle. Am I wrong? I did read on the internet that the axle bearings on new replacement wheels had bearings that were 3/4 inch ID.

[oneokie]

You are not wrong, the butterfly thing is a retainer, similar to what is used to retain the wheels on a childs wagon or the rear wheels on a tricycle.

That type of bearing is available in many different bore sizes. I am aware of 1/2", 5/8" and 3/4" bore sizes.