DIY plumbing sites on the web?

[kenji]

To the friendly and knowledgeable forum members;
I'm not any ware near a library and am tired of using the woods to go number two. I want books to learn plumbing from and don't want to read that book about how to take a dump in the woods.
I've got a little 8' X16' shack i built and i dug a lagoon. on hand i have 200' of schedule 40 sewer pipe and need gas to my bought used on demand tank- less water heater and gas range but need to get info how to install toilet and a small gas system.
I'm handy and mostly broke.
Anyone know a site where i can get answers about were to put in vents and traps and valves etc.?
aloha
kenji.

[kenji]

well i know i can count on yall but i have to go so i'll check back later
aloha
kenji

[Old Vet]

There are many books about pluming out there. Go to the neariset Libary and check one out and see if it is what you need. What you need is to stop and think about what you are doing. The answer is it is so simple. You can get information from any hardware store. The main thing is to make sure that you are going downhill on any drain. In a gas aplication use flexaple copper and make sure that flaring tool is used on all joints. You can do this without much thought.

[agmantoo]

I have heard all my life that a plumber only needs to knwo 3 things. Hot on the left, cold on the right, crap will not flow uphill. You may also need to know what a studer valve is to get the elevated degree.

[morrowsmowers]

Originally Posted by agmantoo

I have heard all my life that a plumber only needs to knwo 3 things. Hot on the left, cold on the right, crap will not flow uphill. You may also need to know what a studer valve is to get the elevated degree.

Nope, they only have to know two things -- s__t goes downhill and payday is every other Friday.

Ken in Glassboro, NJ

[Farmerwilly2]

Try again fellas, crap goes down, smoke goes up.

[mtman]

it does go down hill but it has to be at the right rate or there is no wash on the pipe

[bill not in oh]

Water flows downhill, crap flows downhill and don't bite your fingernails...

[1eaglescout]

email me a picture of what you want {i.e. bathroom layout and septic location} and I will lay it out and size it for you.
Never listen to anything they tell you at the hardware store especially lowes or home depot. If those guys had a clue what they were doing they would not be working there for minimum wage. Books on the trades are not much better. I take that back......they suck.

[insanity]

Going number two in the woods this time of year sucks. Huh
Maybe some of these links will help. But im not seeing illustrations.

http://www.doityourself.com/scat/plumbingairandheat

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/hi_plu..._13929,00.html

http://homerepair.about.com/od/plumb...tep_Guides.htm


http://www.plumbingpages.com/feature...peworkHome.cfm


http://www.diydata.com/plumbing/wast...aste_pipes.php

http://www.hometime.com/Howto/projects/plumbing.htm

http://www.theplumber.com/faq.html

[e.alleg]

The library is the best bet or visit a local vo-tech. college and ask around you'll be fine. Plumbing isn't hard unless you are in a rush.

[kenji]

Originally Posted by 1eaglescout

email me a picture of what you want {i.e. bathroom layout and septic location} and I will lay it out and size it for you.
Never listen to anything they tell you at the hardware store especially lowes or home depot. If those guys had a clue what they were doing they would not be working there for minimum wage. Books on the trades are not much better. I take that back......they suck.

here's an idea on how low tech things are

http://photos.yahoo.com/labmission

so far on what i've come up with is 3" and a 2-way clean out into my 4" with a half a level bubble fall to my lagoon. i'll try to get a old camode that flushes a good amount of water it move my solids along before they freeze. also i'll put in a 2" vent at a "T" above my 90 and maybe a trap for grey water dumping into the same point. hopefuly my insulation that i have to put in my floor joists will keep the trap from from freezing. every thing else on the sewage side is grey water from a wash tub and wringer washer and a out door shower. if i can find a cheap holding tank... i'll use it for irrigation.

I've got a small pioletless range and a on demand water heater. i want to get a gas dryer for when the sun don't shine too. But nomone will teach me about gas... proly thinkin i'll get blowed up.

aloha
kenji

[kenji]

Originally Posted by mtman

it does go down hill but it has to be at the right rate or there is no wash on the pipe

yup, frozen poop in the pipe and i'm right back to using the woods.

[kenji]

so don't let this thred die eather (please)
aloha
kenji

[mamalisa]

i have an old 5-gal flush john to rip out, I'd cheerfully give it to you if I can cap the pipe......

[kenji]

Originally Posted by mamalisa

i have an old 5-gal flush john to rip out, I'd cheerfully give it to you if I can cap the pipe......

anyone traveling from virginia to the ozarks?
john needs a new home.

[hunter63]

I have been reading the post on this thread. Like the cabin.
I ran into a similar problem when it came time to design and install the plumbing at "The Place".

It seem that most sites these days are long on requests for money and short on information. You know, "find plumbing on EBay", get your info on Ask, we except Pay Pal.
You almost have to get 2-3 pages deep on a search to come even close to any useful info.
Any way, I bought a book at Menard's.
Plumbing-Basic, Intermediate, and Advanced Projects, By Merle Henkenius.
From "Creative Homeowner"
www.creativehomeowner.com
Got to tell you, that this had design, and how-to-it, in a very easy to understand format.
Interestingly enough, I'm a HVAC tech in a company that has over 80 tradesman, plumbers, fitters, sprinkler fitters, sheet metal/metal fabricators,(all kinds) welders etc.
I was having a hard time getting a straight answer out of any of them on just the basic design.
Finally, after I did my design, with the info from the book,complete with venting, pitch etc, I did get the Master Plumber to give me his "Grunt of approval".

At that point I went ahead and completed the job, made more intresting because of being a log cabin (no hollow exrerior walls).
Good luck.
P.S. Pex is wonderful stuff, and takes a freezing hit better than copper.

[1eaglescout]

Can you give me a general idea of the bathroom floor plan? Your pix don't do me any good, I need to know locations and floor space available. Do you want a whole bath or just a commode?

[kenji]

k' i'll draw up something tomarrow
did yall look at my 3 wire electrical plan in my photo section?
aloha
kenji

[kenji]

sorry i havent got those plans yet
busy buying a work truck
i'll get it to you as soon as i can
kenji