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Old 04/01/11, 11:19 AM
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Where do they NOT care about building codes?

My family is looking to move, and we are obviously going to build a safe place to live, but want it to be as cheap and money-efficient as possible. Not having to worry about permits and such would really help with that.

So I was wondering if there is a place (Alaska, maybe?) where you don't have to have all the permits and such to build?

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Old 04/01/11, 12:14 PM
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May rural areas in the southeast are still that way, but you better hurry, and do your homework to be sure of the local rules. Also, be advised that most states have adopted standard building codes such as IRC 2009. Even if your local jurisdiction doesn't care, you could still be in violation at the state level. Whether anyone every finds out is the risk you have to take. It's like taking the emission equipment off of your car because your state doesn't inspect for it. You're still in violation of federal law.

Another thing to check on is whether you can get insurance on an un-inspected house.

Personally, I wish they would leave people alone who have rural property and want to build their own place on it, at their own risk. Unfortunately, the government knows what's best for everyone.

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Old 04/01/11, 01:28 PM
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Yeah, I think if it's your property, it's your property. End of story. But whatever. Only thing now is to do what we can, as fast as we can, before regulations change again...

As a side note, how many new regulations, ect, DON'T make .gov any money?

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Old 04/01/11, 02:45 PM
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My family is looking to move, and we are obviously going to build a safe place to live, but want it to be as cheap and money-efficient as possible. Not having to worry about permits and such would really help with that.

So I was wondering if there is a place (Alaska, maybe?) where you don't have to have all the permits and such to build?
I had to purchase 1 permit for my cabin. $25 land use fee and only because it was in the Mat-Su Borough. If you are even thinking about heading to Alaska. You need to really think it out right now. Our economy usually lags the lower 48 be a year or 2 and it is starting to get ugly. I know of several construction outfits that went under last fall and 7 more this spring. I ice fish with iron workers that have been without since fall and only have one project on the books for this summer.

Fuel is expensive, food is expensive, materials are not cheap. This is from another forum, but it really hits home.

Here they come

I went to walmart in wasilla yesterday and their was a young guy standing at the exit holding signs like the homeless do in Seattle. I rolled down my window and asked what was up the guy said he just moved here w/ his wife and kids and they didn't have enough gas to make it to his in-laws in anchorage. I slipped him a meager offering and went on my way, from seward meridian to lucille st I counted 4 friggn u-hauls, all w/ mom and pop eyeballing where they're gonna pull over so mom can poop because she hasn't since they left Topeka kansas. It aint pretty folks....we may need to pool our money and run some ads in newspapers and the internet warning people that moving here isn't the answer. I've now seen 4 homeless people in Wasilla this spring holding signs asking for a handout, thats 4 more than I have ever seen before. Don't say I didn't warn you....
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There are lots of places left with no building codes.....mostly rural places.

Off the top of my head is Mo. , Tenn, Ks.....there are plenty more...you just have to go rural farmland and stay out of the cities/towns.

Most cities/towns will have them anywhere you look because your structure could pose a threat to the others in town.

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Old 04/01/11, 03:28 PM
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Old 04/01/11, 05:02 PM
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I live in south central KY and most areas around here have no building codes. As long as you do not live within the city limits you can build whatever you like. In fact, since I am not connected to the electric grid I had no inspections at all (using a composting toilet-no septic). While building the house I lived in one of those prebuilt barns that are delivered on a trailer.

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Old 04/01/11, 05:35 PM
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Lot of places in TX only require septic permit.

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I think the question should be where one can live & work that doesn't have building codes.
We found a few counties in the southern tier of New York that are less regulated but employment is hard to come by.

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Old 04/01/11, 08:56 PM
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WV is another state without building codes in rural areas. You will still have to get a permit for a septic system or well if you hire someone to do the work. Every county will have a sanitarian. Rural counties don't hire building code inspectors.

Like the poster from Alaska mentioned, jobs can be scarce. WV is also a state that lags the nation as far as job recovery and job loss.

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Old 04/02/11, 05:37 PM
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Lot of places in TX only require septic permit.
And, as long as you have over ten acres, it's pretty easy to just put in a regular old septic. No building permits or codes out here in the country. Build it yourself, and you can go tar paper shanty to castle, without pesky interference.
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Old 04/02/11, 07:18 PM
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I've built my cabin without having to deal with codes. I like that. In general, I'm certain that things would stand up to code, just don't want the hassle. However, I am 3 miles back in the woods accessible only by ATV, so no one really knows we are there.

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Old 04/03/11, 10:59 PM
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Most of rural Kansas requires nothing more than septic approval. You can install it yourself, but it has to pass inspection. Other than that, though, no codes, permitting, etc.
Nebraska is similar, but if I'm not mistaken, there is an electrical code that has to be passed rather than septic.
Both of the Dakotas are quite liberal with their building rules (as in, most places dont' have them ) and I'm sure the list goes on.

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Old 04/03/11, 11:54 PM
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Missouri, Tennessee, and Kentucky are a few I can think of off the top of my head- but it is only in rural areas that there aren't building codes...In some counties in Missouri(maybe all?)outhouses are permitted because they don't endanger groundwater. We used to have some land in MO but never got to do anything with it due to a divorce. I don't think there is much work there though.

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Here in South Cental KY where I live the only code is a septic approval but you can install yourself and if there is no eletrical service on the property you will have to have the firmarshell come out once you are done building. Which he only looks at stuff like you have exits and a couple of working smoke detectors. Those are state laws, other then that good to go. There are some jobs in the area as long as you are willing to drive about 30 one way.

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Old 04/04/11, 07:52 PM
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My family is looking to move, and we are obviously going to build a safe place to live, but want it to be as cheap and money-efficient as possible. Not having to worry about permits and such would really help with that.

So I was wondering if there is a place (Alaska, maybe?) where you don't have to have all the permits and such to build?
In unorganised townships in Maine you have to buy a permit to build, but it isn't much & they aren't fussy about what you build.
They're not all over the place but the trailer-build-around isn't uncommon. That must be about the cheapest way to build. Take one not new cheap mobile home, set it up on cement pads or blocks (a gravel pad is nice if you can), then encase with a house - you already have the heat, water, wiring & plumbing.
You can make a strong roof & have much better insulation.
You can also have just an outhouse & a greywater bed, but this will have to be designed by a 'soil scientist' for about $200 - that is the 1st step in getting your building permit. You will have to tell this person that you will have hand-carried (or hand pumped) water only.
Just don't expect to be able to sell it easily later.
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Old 04/04/11, 08:35 PM
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didn't maine adopt the national building code last year?

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Check WV.

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Old 04/04/11, 10:27 PM
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Forget Pennsylvania... It is a beautiful state but began enforcing universal code in 2004. The latest amendment was to require a sprinkling system but we fought them off so far. We have a fire alarm requirement but they wanted this charged system that would work even with the loss of electricity. It also required periodical inspections. If I was younger i would leave this state and go to Missouri !!!!

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TN adopted national building code.

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