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Old 02/13/11, 10:28 AM
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Insulating paint

I'm wondering if any of you preparing to build, remodel, or repaint have considered using a paint additive or a paint designed to add some insulative value to a room?

In essence the paint helps stop the transfer of heat through the wall aiding energy savings.

Here is but one company that sells an additive. http://www.insuladd.com/product.html

Info from that site: "Insuladd® will greatly reduce heat loss (heat absorption) and heat gain from your home by decreasing the AMOUNT of heat that is absorbed by the walls, ceilings and roofs of your home. Insuladd® will reduce heat absorption and keep heat out during the summer by making your house paint act as a heat barrier or radiant barrier. During the winter, it greatly reduces heat loss from your home and prevents it from migrating through your homes walls and ceilings and escaping to the cold outside air."

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"The answer is paint that includes an insulating powder that originated at NASA. Widely used on commercial and residential structures, it transforms any color of paint into an environmentally friendly insulation barrier that saves energy and cost"

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Old 02/13/11, 02:16 PM
 
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I'm wondering if any of you preparing to build, remodel, or repaint have considered using a paint additive or a paint designed to add some insulative value to a room?

In essence the paint helps stop the transfer of heat through the wall aiding energy savings.

Here is but one company that sells an additive. http://www.insuladd.com/product.html

Info from that site: "Insuladd® will greatly reduce heat loss (heat absorption) and heat gain from your home by decreasing the AMOUNT of heat that is absorbed by the walls, ceilings and roofs of your home. Insuladd® will reduce heat absorption and keep heat out during the summer by making your house paint act as a heat barrier or radiant barrier. During the winter, it greatly reduces heat loss from your home and prevents it from migrating through your homes walls and ceilings and escaping to the cold outside air."

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"The answer is paint that includes an insulating powder that originated at NASA. Widely used on commercial and residential structures, it transforms any color of paint into an environmentally friendly insulation barrier that saves energy and cost"
Any time this type of wonder product shows up, ask the question. Can the manufacturer provide peer reviewed testing, using standard protocols, that document that it is performing as claimed? If they can't, it's bogus. 99% of the time products like this are a waste of money. I doubt this is an exception.
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Old 02/13/11, 02:54 PM
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You are free to believe what you want.

Here is a link to the test page information for the product. http://www.insuladd.com/testing.html Feel free to read all of the company site information and form you own opinion from it, or remain stedfast.

Quite a few companies also make a similar product.

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Old 02/13/11, 06:49 PM
 
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I think it will work, I have done alot of reading on it and it sounds like good reasoning to use it and it`s cheap enuff to boot.......


I forgot which company I had marked to use thier product.......

I am actually planning on using it in Kansas....I am about 60 miles south of Hutch......and 40 miles weat of Great Bend....

It is basically air trapped inside of ceramic balls...basic insulation 101 is air space...should work fine.

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Old 02/14/11, 01:19 AM
 
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I had a sample of a similar product many years ago about 7 mil thick on a piece of 14 gauge tin. You could hold a propane torch to one side and your hand on the other very little heat transfer. Not sure what that proved but it was impresive to me.

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Old 02/14/11, 09:10 AM
 
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My first reaction when I began reading this thread was similar to some of the first replies. Alert, potential scam.

Then after reading further I visited the link posted by Windy. Now I am willing to try it out. It isn't cheap.

My reasoning is that I have a mountain property which I am getting ready to reconstruct a house upon.

I have a large garage which I am converting into a shop and living space to occupy during reconstruction.

This space is currently off grid. The living space conversion I insulated with foam and covered with drywall. I do not have any heating system, except minor passive solar.

Even though I have insulated, it is not comfortable enough up there in the winter. Since I have to paint the drywall, this product will be tested by me for that small space. If it works well, it will be fairly obvious. And I will use it more with future projects.

Thanks for starting this thread Windy.
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Old 02/14/11, 10:12 AM
 
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Do a google search for "spray on radiant heat barriers." You can find out a lot of info.

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Old 02/14/11, 11:33 AM
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Since I have to paint the drywall, this product will be tested by me for that small space. If it works well, it will be fairly obvious. And I will use it more with future projects.

Thanks for starting this thread Windy.
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You're certainly welcome Gary. Glad someone might benefit from it. Just a reminder that you may wish to use the additive mentioned instead of buying paint with it already as an ingredient. At least in my opinion that would make it easier to use ONLY on the interior surfaces of the perimeter walls. Of course if you will be closing off some rooms then interior walls might also benefit from the treatment.

I tend to remember that Sherwin-Williams and Behr both produce a barrier paint. I may very well be wrong about that however, or it may be other major paint companies I'm thinking of that offers such. I do know that S-W does have barrier roof coatings.
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I remember watching a show that Bob Vila filmed here locally about building low cost housing out of shipping containers, and they used that coating for insulation. They had a piece of sheet metal coated with it, and he was able to hold it in his hand while they heated the other end red-hot, just a few inches away. I don't understand how it works, but it does seem real. I've heard it's very expensive, though.

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Old 02/14/11, 02:01 PM
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It is $13 per enough additive to treat 5 gallons of paint when purchased enough for 5 gallons. For enough to do one gallon the price is higher because of the smaller quantity and is $15. Plus shipping.

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Their website also listed a product for roofs. I didn't look at that, but since I have a metal roof on the mtn I am interested.

There is a Sherwin Williams a short distance from me. They have a lot higher quality interior and exterior paint than the big box places. I will stop by and ask after I review the link again.
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Old 02/14/11, 02:29 PM
 
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ninny, I googled as suggested. I don't see any relation to the product Windy posted about. Did I miss something?

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ninny, I googled as suggested. I don't see any relation to the product Windy posted about. Did I miss something?
Nope, just another type/alternative heat barrier.

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It was interesting and I have placed the reflective foil on the inner roof of my "garage" so the link validated that effort.
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Old 02/17/11, 07:52 PM
 
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I have been planning on using it for my project and if it does half of what is stated ,then the few dollars it cost will be saved in a couple of years on utilities.....

Plus there is no law about using 2 or 3 coats either.....

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Old 03/15/11, 08:35 PM
 
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http://www.hytechsales.com/insulatin...additives.html

Above is link to the product I will be using on my next build.
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Old 03/16/11, 04:38 AM
 
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http://www.hytechsales.com/insulatin...additives.html

Above is link to the product I will be using on my next build.
Thats the one I had bookmarked........I will find out soon how it goes....I anticipate no problems at all.
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Old 03/16/11, 08:41 AM
 
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Thanks for the link. I bookmarked it too. I intend to at least get a gallon's worth for use this spring. I won't be able to accurately test it, but I still like the idea of using it soon.

I was wondering whether it could be added to a cement or plaster mix. Hmm, I may get more that 1 gallon's worth.

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Old 03/16/11, 08:42 AM
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With real life testing done in China and South Africa what could go wrong? It improves paint by 38% if I read that right. GREAT! But its still just paint. I'll pass.

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With real life testing done in China and South Africa what could go wrong? It improves paint by 38% if I read that right. GREAT! But its still just paint. I'll pass.
I'm sure it's as legit as the fine companies that provide magical devices that clamp on your water line to "realign the water molecules" into softened water, or the ones that have the hydrogen generators that turn your truck into a 100MPG miracle. I'm placing my order before midnight tonight. But, others whose zip codes start with # 5 thru 9 will have to wait until after the clock strikes 12. :happy0035:
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