Peta is at it again

[Rockytopsis]

Just told on the local news that peta has asked UTC to drop its fishing program because the fish feel too much pain. I just really do not understand those people.

[WstTxLady]

they are all mental nut cases...need to be certified & lock away

[Haggis]

I may not always agree with groups such as PETA, or groups such as the NRA for that matter, but such groups do keep America on its moral and ethical toes.

As to whether fish feel or do not feel pain; one suspects they do, most living things do. This then raises the moral and ethical question of how much "humane respect" to show this living thing when it is literally fighting for its life and dangling off a barbed hook?

[jross]

Originally Posted by Haggis

I may not always agree with groups such as PETA, or groups such as the NRA for that matter, but such groups do keep America on its moral and ethical toes.

As to whether fish feel or do not feel pain; one suspects they do, most living things do. This then raises the moral and ethical question of how much "humane respect" to show this living thing when it is literally fighting for its life and dangling off a barbed hook?

That's why I only use barbless circle hooks. What is ethical about PeTa being a mouthpiece for the terrorists ALF and ELF?

[Haggis]

Originally Posted by jross

What is ethical about PeTa being a mouthpiece for the terrorists ALF and ELF?

I do not much care for whom PETA is a mouthpiece, other than for the animals themselves. The fact is that I have always fished, hunted, and trapped, and it is likely I will continue these activities so long as I am able, but PETA, and such animal rights groups, have caused me and countless millions of others around the world to slow down and take a closer look at our treatment of these living beings we pursue.

[backwoodsman]

PETA never made me do anything. Ive always had some compassion and respect for any critter I harvested. PETA cares nothing for the animals it preach's about, Check out their no kill shelters. Whoops, guess there isnt such a thing. They are people who prey on other people and use animals and animal welfare to do it. Only one thing drives PETA, greed and that is a greed for money. There are true "animal welfare" groups out there that truly do care for the animals and some run alot of municipal shelters. I encourage all outdoors people, farmers etc to write or call PETA and ask for all their pamphlets and paper work or visit their website. Its useful as kindling, well some of its too glossy to burn real good. Aint much count for TP either. Womens groups are even offended by PETA and their Nude/strippers. Do some research on PETA and a few of their ilk, may surprise you what they really are.

[Michael Kawalek]

Sorry, but you aren't using the correct terminology. They're NOT fish, they're "sea kittens". Please use the edit function to corret your posts!

[Rockytopsis]

UH NO fish are fish and they were fed to the masses long before PETA.

[oldasrocks]

That why if the stream is full of PETA members opposing your fishing you should only fish with dynamite.

People Eating Tasty Animals.

[jross]

Originally Posted by Haggis

I do not much care for whom PETA is a mouthpiece, other than for the animals themselves. The fact is that I have always fished, hunted, and trapped, and it is likely I will continue these activities so long as I am able, but PETA, and such animal rights groups, have caused me and countless millions of others around the world to slow down and take a closer look at our treatment of these living beings we pursue.

Something you should have been doing all along. Those groups also have created serious problems with horses, bears, wild geese, and other species with their emotionally driven objections and lawsuits over the research and opinion of those who more qualified to make wildlife decisions.

[jross]

Originally Posted by oldasrocks

That why if the stream is full of PETA members opposing your fishing you should only fish with dynamite.

People Eating Tasty Animals.

That is so inhumane. Electroshocking would be my choice.

[Haggis]

Originally Posted by jross

Something you should have been doing all along. Those groups also have created serious problems with horses, bears, wild geese, and other species with their emotionally driven objections and lawsuits over the research and opinion of those who more qualified to make wildlife decisions.

Unlike some folk, I don't know everything, I don't think of everything, and I don't see everything from every angle; animal rights groups, whether I agree with their or not add some depth to my perception.

Over the years, and after listening to countless opinions, I've stopped doing some things I used to think of as quite humane; for instance, due to it being quite cruel to the animal, I no longer will set a "leg-hold" steel trap in any but a drowning situation (no land sets, ever), and I will no longer hunt with a bow and arrows. I think, as is the case with most issues, everyone should decide for themselves, but in my opinion, both of the above mentioned means of harvesting animals are generally cruel and inhumane.

[jross]

Originally Posted by Haggis

Unlike some folk, I don't know everything, I don't think of everything, and I don't see everything from every angle; animal rights groups, whether I agree with their or not add some depth to my perception.

Over the years, and after listening to countless opinions, I've stopped doing some things I used to think of as quite humane; for instance, due to it being quite cruel to the animal, I no longer will set a "leg-hold" steel trap in any but a drowning situation (no land sets, ever), and I will no longer hunt with a bow and arrows. I think, as is the case with most issues, everyone should decide for themselves, but in my opinion, both of the above mentioned means of harvesting animals are generally cruel and inhumane.

Maybe you were a poor shot with a bow.

[Txrider]

Originally Posted by Haggis

I may not always agree with groups such as PETA, or groups such as the NRA for that matter, but such groups do keep America on its moral and ethical toes.

As to whether fish feel or do not feel pain; one suspects they do, most living things do. This then raises the moral and ethical question of how much "humane respect" to show this living thing when it is literally fighting for its life and dangling off a barbed hook?

As much as it would show for us if we were edible size for it to eat, and it decided to eat us?

ie: none whatsoever?

[uhcrandy]

I look at this as a religious issue. I beleive God created this world, and put all things here for Mans benifit. We should be good stewards of gods gift. He gave us the animals to eat. There is nothing wrong with doing so. Just my 2c.
Thanks

[WstTxLady]

Originally Posted by uhcrandy

I look at this as a religious issue. I beleive God created this world, and put all things here for Mans benifit. We should be good stewards of gods gift. He gave us the animals to eat. There is nothing wrong with doing so. Just my 2c.
Thanks

EXACTLY

[Laura Zone 10]

Originally Posted by uhcrandy

I look at this as a religious issue. I beleive God created this world, and put all things here for Mans benifit. We should be good stewards of gods gift. He gave us the animals to eat. There is nothing wrong with doing so. Just my 2c.
Thanks

Yep.
Told Peter to "kill and eat".
Recall Jesus collected a coin out of a fishes mouth. Don't recall Him throwing it back?

[GBov]

Even seeing the name PITA makes my blood boil! "People inciting terrorist activities" about sums it up!

[poorboy]

I usta think that the arrow was a cruel way for animals to die ( though I wasn't against others favoring that method) 'til I saw a hunting show one day where a fellow shot an Elk with an arrow, then when it ran off he called it back an shot it AGAIN..Just try that with a 30-30...Obviously the pain level from a cut is much less than the trauma of a bullet hit..maybe the death comes a little slower with a bow, but i believe it to be less painful than a firearm...

[Ross]

Even seeing the name PITA makes my blood boil! "People inciting terrorist activities" about sums it up!

Well its PETA or People Exonerating Terrorist Activities, only illustrates the extremes of their main activity of seperating good people from their money