I've got a real sore shoulder....

[Cabin Fever]

....but, I ain't complainin'! I finally got to do some target practice with my collection of USGI rifles. I built a 100-yard range thru the woods a month or so ago and never had the time to really use it until yesterday. I am sure that the neighbors for miles around thought it was the 4th of July.

[hunter63]

Hey, nice collection.
It's nice to have your own range, especially when you really want to burn some powder.
Got a couple of scopes to sight in, but been kinda busy.
Congrats.

[zant]

How can one not love the Garand??Those are some beauties...What kinda grouping do they shoot?

[diamondtim]

CF,

Has to be the fault of those WWI bolt actions. It sure couldn't be from those semi-autos. Avoid the pain and send them to me.

[poorboy]

What? No trapdoor or Krag..:-(

[Cabin Fever]

Originally Posted by zant

How can one not love the Garand??Those are some beauties...What kinda grouping do they shoot?

Shooting surplus ammo (~30 years old) while standing, about 2 or so MOA.

Originally Posted by poorboy

What? No trapdoor or Krag..:-(

You're right, no K-J....yet! Here's my 1873 Trapdoor:

[poorboy]

Way cool:-)

[Murray in ME]

Originally Posted by Cabin Fever

Shooting surplus ammo (~30 years old) while standing, about 2 or so MOA.

That's darn good shooting.

[Murray in ME]

Originally Posted by poorboy

What? No trapdoor or Krag..:-(

One of these would also be a good addition.

[Cabin Fever]

Originally Posted by Murray in ME

That's darn good shooting.

Well, maybe I'm using the term "MOA"...or calculating MOA....incorrectly. What I can shoot standing, without a bench rest or tripod, at a target 100 yards away is 4 to 6 inch groups.

Let's say I shoot 8 rounds out of a Garand. One or two rounds may be way out of the group....I ignore those and consider them "outliers." I take the radius of the remaining rounds and call that my MOA at 100 yds. Is that correct? Should I be using the diameter of the group?

I really don't believe that I'm that great a marksman.

[zant]

Best way to measure groups is center to center of holes....Try and remember which one was a flyer.....Though I have rifles capable of 1.5" at 200yds all day long,the REALITY is anything that groups 3" or under at 100yds is more than accurate enough...and will feed you no problemo or protect you..

[littlejoe]

Offhand, a 4 to 6 inch group from those rifles is what I'd call "pretty ----ed good"! A 2 MOA would be outstanding!

I'd love eliminating the flyers too! lol!

Nice guns CF!

Originally Posted by Cabin Fever

Well, maybe I'm using the term "MOA"...or calculating MOA....incorrectly. What I can shoot standing, without a bench rest or tripod, at a target 100 yards away is 4 to 6 inch groups.

Let's say I shoot 8 rounds out of a Garand. One or two rounds may be way out of the group....I ignore those and consider them "outliers." I take the radius of the remaining rounds and call that my MOA at 100 yds. Is that correct? Should I be using the diameter of the group?

I really don't believe that I'm that great a marksman.

[Bearfootfarm]

I take the radius of the remaining rounds and call that my MOA at 100 yds. Is that correct?

Groups should be measured center to center of the farthest shots

"MOA" ( Minute of Angle) is 1" at 100 yds