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Old 01/18/09, 09:55 PM
 
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Polymer tipped shells?

I have purchased both hollow point and polymer tip shells for my .17 cal handgun.

Both are suppose to be 2550fps at the muzzle.

What is the difference in regards to impact, or results of the shot?

Is one better than the other?

Thanks for any input.

brownegg
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Old 01/18/09, 10:37 PM
 
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What are the bullet weights?? Force = mass times velocity squared. The velocity is the same, only the mass can be different.
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Old 01/18/09, 11:41 PM
 
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The biggest difference is that the polymer tipped bullets will have a slight advantage at long range because the tipped bullet will retain its velocity better because of its more efficient shape.

Considering that a .17 (I'm assuming one of the rimfires) handgun isn't normally used at really long range, I'd try both loads and use the one that is the most accurate in my handgun.
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Old 01/20/09, 08:42 AM
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Bullet type generally depends on bullet use.
What are you planning to shoot with it?, Targets? Hunting?/what?

I agree that the advice to try each, for what ever the use, is the best advice, IMHO.
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Old 01/20/09, 06:00 PM
 
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Thanks for the replys. I'll do some shooting and find out what's up.

My Taurus revolver has a 8 and 3/8" long barrel and will be used for hunting.

My friend ordered the gun and found out his wife was totally PO'D. He was going to use it for treed coons....I bought it from him new in the box at a very good price...I'll see what i can do with it.

Thanks Again, brownegg
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Old 01/24/09, 05:13 AM
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I just received two boxes of 45-70. Nasty looking varmints. These have basically a rubber tip in them to keep from striking the one ahead of it in the tube on a lever gun.
They look very similar to my hornady SST's that I shoot in my Muzzler stuffers.
These are 325 grain. I have not shot them yet.. when you spend over a dollar a shot it is hard to just waste em on paper.
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Old 01/24/09, 05:58 AM
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These are 325 grain. I have not shot them yet.. when you spend over a dollar a shot it is hard to just waste em on paper.
It is not a "waste" to shoot those on paper- its your duty as an ethical hunter!

If you are an ethical hunter/shooter you do need to shoot a box or two on targets to make sure you are sighted in with that load and to learn how it shoots in your gun. Any game animal is worth doing the right thing. If you can not afford the sport give it up!

To do otherwise is just not right PERIOD!
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Old 01/24/09, 10:28 PM
 
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It is not a "waste" to shoot those on paper- its your duty as an ethical hunter!

If you are an ethical hunter/shooter you do need to shoot a box or two on targets to make sure you are sighted in with that load and to learn how it shoots in your gun. Any game animal is worth doing the right thing. If you can not afford the sport give it up!

To do otherwise is just not right PERIOD!
Unless you can shoot an adequate group without wasting $50 bucks in ammo. .

If you can knock said critter down, and recover what you've killed, all is well.

ADDED,

Winchester Supreme ammo is hell on woodchucks/smallish mammals.

Turns em' into something resembling vapor and ground beef.

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Old 01/25/09, 12:06 AM
 
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Unless you can shoot an adequate group without wasting $50 bucks in ammo. .

If you can knock said critter down, and recover what you've killed, all is well.

The problem with that is that different loads often shoot to different (sometimes dramatically so) points of aim. It doesn't matter what size group you can shoot, you need to know where that group is going to land. Paul is right. It's irresponsible to shoot at game without knowing for sure where you're bullets are going to land.
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Old 01/25/09, 07:38 AM
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Tallpaul thanks for blatantly calling me out on Ethics.. I have been an educated hunter since I was a wee lad. I do have enough common sense to site in a rifle with a new load. I do appreciate the public bashing though.. I guess I needed it,.
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Old 01/25/09, 07:51 AM
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Tallpaul thanks for blatantly calling me out on Ethics.. I have been an educated hunter since I was a wee lad. I do have enough common sense to site in a rifle with a new load. I do appreciate the public bashing though.. I guess I needed it,.
well if ya are so knowledgable then PLEASE do not post stuff like that that can and will give the uneducated and cheap an excuse to practice poor firearm habits and use!

I stand by my post based on what ya said and "not what ya know" or meant ta say...

ya coulda stated that at over a dollar a round "plinking" or shooting much other that sighting in or at game is not likely ta happen etc...

I have seen and heard of way tooo many folk that buy the gun and maybe sight it in with cheap stuff and stuff premium ammo in the gun for huntin or self defense and the reality is that Points of impact,accuracy and maybe even function are likely to be quite different than the other rounds...


way to many newbies to shooting to take the simple for granted... even I need that reminder now n a gain so don't feel bad Eric...

A bad shot made because of the practice ya mentioned can be yet another tool the anti huntin and anti gun crowd can use as an example etc...

yes I am sensitive to safety and my gun rights!
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Old 01/25/09, 10:27 AM
 
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I was in a drugstore with a gun dept in WY, buying an antelope tag. A group of dudes were there and one was getting a rifle, rings, bases, and scope. Maybe he forgot his rifle or something. The kid behind the counter screwed everything together, stuck in a collimator and adjusted the scope. He finally said there, that should be good for 200 yards. The dude said oh no, I want it at 250 yards. OK, he adjusted a bit more and said there, 250 yards. They left happy, to go chase antelope. I shook my head.
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Old 01/27/09, 08:59 PM
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I noticed the polymer tipped bullets when shot out of my 17HMR, exhibited
quite a bit more destructive exit wounds on Jackrabbits than the hollow points. The polymer tipped rounds were Hornady, I can't remember what the hollowpoints were???

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I have purchased both hollow point and polymer tip shells for my .17 cal handgun.

Both are suppose to be 2550fps at the muzzle.

What is the difference in regards to impact, or results of the shot?

Is one better than the other?

Thanks for any input.

brownegg
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Old 01/28/09, 10:14 AM
 
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Thanks for the information. Both my hollow points and polymer tipped shells are hornady. I've yet to shoot anything but paper so far. It will be fun to try it out though.

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