I think I have my 50 ready.

[alleyyooper]

New to me last spring but didn't have time to play with it till now.


11-03-06
The set up, and intresting results.










11-03-06

I liked the results with the T7 FFG. I have some old (2years) APP FFFg I tried to. These all were shot at 50 yards
I didn't Swab between shots with this round Of APP FFFG. By the 6th shot I had to really push with the short starter to get the sabot started. Once it was at the end of the short starter the ram rod pushed them down like I had greased the barrel.



I did swab between shots during this round.




Here is what I thought would happen after yesterdays shooting. I am sure I pulled #1 as I was fresh from a nice warm house .



Once I clear the range I will try this load at 100 yards. I think it is going to be just fine though.
I also like the Idea of 80gr. Also since it takes less powder and has very mild recoil.

Al

[big rockpile]

That ought to do it!!

big rockpile

[Bearfootfarm]

Ive been using the 80 grain load for a while now and have only recovered one bullet. It entered in front of the left front shoulder and was found under the hide on the right rear leg, It had penetrated about 3 feet and was a perfect mushroom. I was using the 300 gr XTP. You should try that bullet too. Its a lot more accurate in my guns than the 240's. Ive killed them out to 125 yds with it so far.

Also, Ive found that Windex makes a great cleaning solution for T7. I put a bunch of patches in a ziplock bag and them spray enough Windex to get them moist, but not too wet. In and out with each side of the patch usually gets all the fouling.

[alleyyooper]

I swab with a 50<> 50 mix of windsheild fluid and alcohol and keep the patches in a primer tin, I keep some bigger patches in plastic speer bullet boxes for my 54cal.

Al

[bgak47]

Your Modern blackpowder rifle is certainly nice, but it has little interest to me. It's just a hunting machine that allows you to hunt during blackpowder season.I prefer the more primitive blackpowder firearms during this season. JMO. I enjoy the history of the Primitive arms & I think that it might be a good idea to have a seperate season for the Modern blackpowder guns. They are really just blackpowder versions of modern rifles. This season used to be known as primative arms. I'm glad that you enjoy your rifle & I wish you good luck in your hunt.

[Ed Norman]

Originally Posted by Bearfootfarm

Inline ignition muzzleloaders are about as old as the side hammer versions. Most of them shoot the same loads as any other style. Most of the "advantages" you read about are sales hype. The biggest advantage is ease of cleaning since you can remove the breech plugs. As far as accuracy with bullets vs round balls, that is determined by the rate of twist in the rifling and not by the basic design of the gun. Even flintlocks are a "modern " version of the matchlock which had a simple touchole in the barrel where you stuck a smoldering "match" . Other than convenience there are no real advantages of one style over the other.

So, which would you pick on a rainy day: Your inline or my 54 flinchlock loaded with FFg and FFFFg, a piece of hornet nest, and a patched roundball, with a dried elk hide shank over the lock to keep the rain off? I'll pick mine, every time. On the other hand, I don't care what you shoot; if you like it, have fun and be safe.

[alleyyooper]

"This season used to be known as primative arms"
Here in Michigan it has always been knowen as Muzzle Loader season. Not black powder, Not flint lock, Not cap lock, Not bows only, Not spears either.
I personal would argue that primative arms would be some thing like a home made bow or a spear. How much more primative can you get.

I also own shoot and hunt with cap locks. I see nothing wrong with a different design than most traditionalist except.



Shot the above target.

Ya I know has a peep sight so that isn't traditionalist enough for your taste.

My other side lock.The shame of it all it wears a scope.



I have said it before and I say it again to you traditionalist bow and gun hunters.
While you are argueing about how I hunt the antis are of one mind stop hunting.

Yes it is always you traditionalist who make the negtive remarks on what I and others bow hunt with as well as muzzle loder hunt with.

Al

[bgak47]

Judging by your large caps in your post you seem to be rather incensed by my Opinion about primitive arms. That's just my Opinion. Primitive arms could be considered to be sticks & rocks. I don't care what you hunt with. I was just expressing my Opinion about how I feel about the History of the Black Powder hunting season.It was originally established to give those who were interested in hunting with black powder arms a chance to harvest deer during a special season that was set aside for them.Does your state allow black powder cartridge rifles during black powder season, or is it restricted to muzzle loading weapons?If it's muzzle-loading only, what calibers are allowed? .40?.45?.50?.54?.58?.68? I don't care if you hunt with a stainless steel, in-line bolt-action rifle with a laser scope. MY OPINION is that Black Powder, or Muzzle Loading deer season should be limited to traditional firearms,including caplocks, but excluding in-line muzzle-loaders.That's Just MY Opinion! Don't like it! TS!

[alleyyooper]

In the March issue of Field & Stream they posted the results of a poll they took. One question was
" Hunters that used scoped, in-line muzzleloaders are violating the spirit of the law, and their guns are no more primitive than most centerfire deer rifles." results were pretty well divided 54% agreed, 46% disagreed.

"Spirit of the law" is pretty clearly defined by the letter of the law in most states.

Muzzle loading only, 45 cal min. black powder or substute. That is how Michigans law reads.

The in-line design has been around for years, as exemplified by Jean Samuel Pauley’s in-line system of 1812. The Germans also had an in-line flintlock design as early as 1738. So the belief that sidelock muzzleloaders are the more historically accurate traditional firearms is false. Unquestionably, the in-line style is more popular among today’s traditional hunters and shooters, says Tim Pancurak of Thompson/Center Arms. “In-lines represent the majority of our muzzleloader sales,” he said—an amazing statistic considering that T/C’s first true in-line muzzleloader was introduced in 1993. Dudley McGarity, national sales manager of Connecticut Valley Arms (CVA), says in-lines now make up about 80 percent of that company’s sales. “They have really come on strong in the past few years,” he said. “The in-line has enticed a lot of hunters to try muzzleloading. The in-line looks more familiar and is perceived to be easier to use. It is also perceived that they are more reliable and more accurate than the old traditional guns.”

The inlines just lend them selves to updateing better.
NUFF said.

Al