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04/29/14, 11:02 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Weed / plant identification
Hi all, I was hoping some of you would be able to help with identifying a weed as well as a plant (flower?) planted in the flowerbed at my new house. I live in SW KS, zone 5B.
The first is the weed. Sorry, the wind was blowing out of control so I had to pull some to get a decent pic. These things start to grow very early, well before danger of frost has past. Yellow flowers, leaves are kind of spikey. Grows to about knee high, 20-24". We've called this wild mustard forever but I'm fairly certain that's not right.
The second is what I believe to be a flower. It was the only plant in my flowerbed when I bought the house late last summer (didn't water at all last year). It stayed green very late into the year, December possibly, until we got a hard freeze for several days and the leaves remained on the plant until this spring. I removed them when I was removing debris from the flowerbed. It started to grow quite early this year already, it is much larger than the pic but I couldn't get a decent pic today - again, dirt & wind blowing like crazy. At any rate, there are no signs of blossoms or buds showing up yet. Just wondering if it is indeed a flower or possibly a spice of some kind? Any ideas? TIA!
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04/30/14, 06:09 AM
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Original recipe!
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It would appear that the first is Yarrow.
It is a bit difficult to tell from the pic.
And the second could be anything from Rocket (which I have and mine blooms red in late summer) to another flower that my friend has. (hers is almost like an odd lily..totally beautiful though)
Leave that one and see what it becomes!
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04/30/14, 07:30 AM
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The second looks like it may be Purslane.
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04/30/14, 07:43 AM
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Wait................what?
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The first does look to be some sort of mustard. There are a LOT of them and it usually takes a someone who knows what they are doing and a very good key to find out exactly which one it is. If it was yarrow it would be sort of fuzzy and have a very definite smell to it. I tend to think of it as woodsy. But, I don't think that is yarrow. I think it is a mustard. It shouldn't have much of a smell to it when crushed. If any of it has set seed, that would be a good pic. Mustards have a definite type of seed. You can't tell what sort of mustard from the seed, but you can tell it's a mustard.
The second one, I have no idea. Keep track of it and take pics when/if it flowers. Take note of any fragrance it may or may not have as well.
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04/30/14, 09:13 AM
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Could the second on be alstroemearia?
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04/30/14, 09:24 AM
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Yes, what does the first one smell like when crushed? I'm gonna go out and look at my sweet William and compare to the second one. Lots of exciting finds at your new place! 
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04/30/14, 09:27 AM
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Nice looking dirt, too!
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04/30/14, 09:45 AM
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it looks to me like the weed that makes what I call stick tights if you get them in your socks you might as well toss them in the trash can't get them out very obnoxious weed as far as I am concerned
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04/30/14, 10:46 PM
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04/30/14, 10:50 PM
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Oops..posted that before I was finished. The alstroemeria looks very similar, but comparing photos online to my plants, these are a bit more compact that what I've seen online. I didn't notice how yellowed these things looked until the photos. Aside from some bone meal for the bulbs I've planted and a bit of cow manure I've not really fertilized anything yet. Hope these help.
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05/01/14, 07:44 AM
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That's not purslane, lol.
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05/01/14, 07:54 AM
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Wait................what?
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The yellow flowered weed is definitely a mustard of some sort.
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05/01/14, 10:30 AM
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I think I've found the weed... Pinnate Tansy Mustard. Seems to match up. Now for the flower! I know they put the house on the market in May of last year and the guy living there was very unlikely to have watered...so I was checking the place out from May-July when I signed on the house and I never saw it flower. That's why I was thinking possibly an herb of some sort but I don't know.
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05/01/14, 03:54 PM
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For the bottom one- self seeded zinnas?
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05/01/14, 04:57 PM
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For the bottom one- self seeded zinnas?
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That looks very similar, indeed. The only difference I see so far is that those plants appear to be less compact but they may still be a variety within the zinnia family?!? Will have to see what I get. I hope they're not ugly. lol If they didn't flower last year, is it still possible that they would sprout from a previous year? Are there perennial zinnias?
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05/02/14, 12:14 AM
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I really don't know what it is. Ixve never planted an annual outside of veggies in my life. But it keeps nagging at me that I've seen it before.
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06/22/14, 06:58 PM
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OK. I finally have blossoms on my flowers! (Excuse the weeds, please. HECTIC spring/summer!) I also have another weird flower growing that wasn't there last year. I thought it might have been a weed at first because of the manure I'd added (not composted, just aged a bit). Then the other day I noticed blossoms! The leaves of the second plant grow folded together against the main stalk, I think, and unfold as the leaves open/plant grows. It never has stood up very tall, instead traveling along the ground. There are small tendrils that look to attach to nearby objects but they don't hold tight like you find with a pumpkin or cucumber tendril. Sorry for the poor terminology - I don't know what is the correct term at the moment!
So, the blossoms on the first flower that I'd posted pictures of before. They're a light pink/white.
This is the photo of the second flower that I haven't posted photos of yet. These are white flowers.
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Any thoughts/ideas as to what either of these two are?!?
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06/22/14, 08:14 PM
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The first ones look like phlox, the bottom one is sweet pea. If the bottom one is not fragrant it's probably a perennial.
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06/22/14, 08:26 PM
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You beat me to it.
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06/25/14, 04:11 PM
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I thought sweet pea but the ones I saw online looked like they grew upright. Then, I saw later, that they often stake them? So, that could be. I will have to see if it's fragrant. I take it I can dig up the phlox and transplant some so there's not such a large group in that one area?
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The photo of the weed aren't great, simply because of the type of plant it is and all the dead stuff in the background!
