Late green beans?

Fae · #1 08/04/12, 07:28 AM

I'm in zone 8 in SW Alabama. Since my DH and I have both had some health issues and our spring garden did not do well due to neglect, I was curious if anyone knows if pole green beans will still make or if the heat and humidity will be to much on them.

Cliff · #2 08/04/12, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fae

I'm in zone 8 in SW Alabama. Since my DH and I have both had some health issues and our spring garden did not do well due to neglect, I was curious if anyone knows if pole green beans will still make or if the heat and humidity will be to much on them.

If you plant them now, by the time they flower it will be cooling off some. If it's too hot when they flower they flowers will drop instead of setting.

Fae · #3 08/04/12, 09:00 AM

I should have plenty of time to plant them then. I am at least going to give it a shot. Thanks Cliffl

EDDIE BUCK · #4 08/04/12, 10:03 AM

I always have most of my green beans to come off in Oct,just B 4 frost here.Will be planting some next week.

Steve in PA · #5 08/04/12, 10:57 AM

I planted mine right after this thread and they seem to be doing fine. I planted bush and pole, just in case.

Too Late for Green Beans?

jamala · #6 08/04/12, 05:29 PM

I am planting mine this week too.

clovis · #7 08/04/12, 09:29 PM

I'm planting more this week too.

My first batch did not come up at all...maybe we planted too deep...or the beans did not germinate...I don't know.

I'm still planning on having our own green beans this year!!!!!!!

Rick · #8 08/05/12, 08:18 AM

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I'm planting more this week too.

My first batch did not come up at all...maybe we planted too deep...or the beans did not germinate...I don't know.

I'm still planning on having our own green beans this year!!!!!!!

Clove -

You may know this. Plant your beans in fertile hills, mulch between the rows if u can. Water lightly, and NOT every day, until they take. NEVER soak seeds overnight. You may wet them JUST prior to planting, especially to get inoculant on them. I soak just about all big seeds overnight, and then kep them damp on paper towels until I see root tails, but NOT beans.
Our bean plants are thriving in the 95 to 100 deg. heat, without daily water or rain.

This is how we learned to keep the seeds less wet than most seeds........... Last year I soaked beans overnight. I had about 90 spare seed but no hills for them so I used 4 huge planters and crammed them in. I covered them with a screen to protect them from birds, as I thought birds had gotten the first planting. I watered twice a day, lots of water. I had to leave for ten days.

Ann checked after they were planted over a week with NO sign of seed at all in the four hills, or 4 planters. ALL of the seeds had rotted.

I can't speak for seeds older than two years old, but otherwise beans WILL germinate - the whole crop can't FAIL to germinate! My Bush bean pack says plant 1/2 inch deep.

DryHeat · #9 08/05/12, 06:49 PM

I've been planting bush beans containerized for the last several weeks. Many look to be doing fine but right now it's a struggle with high temperatures again (100F-105F) and many days of non-Monsoon humidity (lower without thunderstorms some days). Just dumped a couple of pots whose plants had shriveled despite daily sunshading draping from maybe 10AM-4PM. We're in a desert, though, so really I can't add much to anyone doing in-ground gardening in normal temperate conditions. A final pot-full of pole variety I planted several weeks ago is history now too, the conditions completely toasted the runners and their leaves. Really frustrating. However, I experimented with a few bush beans last year, planting mid-July, and did get a bit of yield from them last October. It encouraged me to do a major expansion of that schedule this year.

Rick · #10 08/05/12, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DryHeat

I've been planting bush beans containerized for the last several weeks. Many look to be doing fine but right now it's a struggle with high temperatures again (100F-105F) and many days of non-Monsoon humidity (lower without thunderstorms some days). Just dumped a couple of pots whose plants had shriveled despite daily sunshading draping from maybe 10AM-4PM. We're in a desert, though, so really I can't add much to anyone doing in-ground gardening in normal temperate conditions. A final pot-full of pole variety I planted several weeks ago is history now too, the conditions completely toasted the runners and their leaves. Really frustrating. However, I experimented with a few bush beans last year, planting mid-July, and did get a bit of yield from them last October. It encouraged me to do a major expansion of that schedule this year.

Man that is awful. We are fortunate that the temps have cycled with only a couple of 98 degree days in 7 or 10.

clovis · #11 08/05/12, 09:33 PM

Rick,

Thanks for the info. FWIW, I've never soaked any seed.

I am wondering if the seed is any good. We try to buy our seed from a tiny little mom and pop place. They say their seed is good, but I can't imagine that they sell all that much. I should test it, but I haven't.

There is a also a chance that it got planted too deep, and or got too much water and rotted.

I meant to plant today...we'll try tomorrow.

Rick · #12 08/05/12, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by clovis

Rick,

Thanks for the info. FWIW, I've never soaked any seed.

I am wondering if the seed is any good. We try to buy our seed from a tiny little mom and pop place. They say their seed is good, but I can't imagine that they sell all that much. I should test it, but I haven't.

There is a also a chance that it got planted too deep, and or got too much water and rotted.

I meant to plant today...we'll try tomorrow.

Plant them 1/2 inch down; Don't overwater!!!

NickieL gifted me a ton of kale seeds. (Thanks Nickie!!)
We have a ton of extra bush bean seed, guaranteed good seed. If you want some, just PM how many, and your address and they will be there by Friday.
We would be pleased to pass on the kindness!

BTW you are planting in the dark of the moon. We are not strict about it, but try to follow it

FWIW, We planted this year before or on the full moon.

Fae · #13 08/06/12, 10:32 PM

We usually plant pole beans but I think I am going to plant bush for the fall. The pole beans keep producing longer but I want a lot at one time so think bush will be better. I have never soaked my green bean seed but I do wet them so the inoculant will stick better. I think I am going to plant the pole beans with dent corn come spring.

clovis · #14 08/12/12, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Plant them 1/2 inch down; Don't overwater!!!

NickieL gifted me a ton of kale seeds. (Thanks Nickie!!)
We have a ton of extra bush bean seed, guaranteed good seed. If you want some, just PM how many, and your address and they will be there by Friday.
We would be pleased to pass on the kindness!

BTW you are planting in the dark of the moon. We are not strict about it, but try to follow it

FWIW, We planted this year before or on the full moon.

Rick,

We replanted beans today in two patches. In one area, I planted in rows. I scattered beans in the other area.

I did find two of the earlier planted seeds. They looked burned and rotten.

Let's hope we have beans this fall!!!!!!

(FWIW: It has turned into a near obsession. The wife said "I just want one bean to grow for us!!!!")

Melodee · #15 08/16/12, 01:03 PM

Does anyone have a good recipe for pickled green beans? My niece keeps asking me to make some for her. I also remember eating something called 'chow chow'. It was assorted pickled veggies. Thanks. Melodee

romysbaskets · #16 08/16/12, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by clovis

Rick,

We replanted beans today in two patches. In one area, I planted in rows. I scattered beans in the other area.

I did find two of the earlier planted seeds. They looked burned and rotten.

Let's hope we have beans this fall!!!!!!

(FWIW: It has turned into a near obsession. The wife said "I just want one bean to grow for us!!!!")

After I planted my pole beans 4 times now, the ones in June drowned, it is getting obsessive for me too! I check them every day, lament that we are getting hotter weather into the 80's but it should cool down next week. They are flowering but no beans yet, I am determined to get beans and planted them in four different places with a little different light exposure...I even started some indoors and planted the seedlings outdoors, those the ones doing the best by leaps and bounds! I have some that came up after thinking they were long gone. I have all different kinds in all different condition...wow! I just hope I will get beans this year too, was thinking maybe I could plant more??! Tell your wife, this gal gets it totally!

clovis · #17 08/16/12, 11:22 PM

Thank you for the reply!

I almost didn't post how the beans were becoming an obsession...I didn't think anyone would understand!!!

clovis · #18 08/16/12, 11:25 PM

Oh, BTW, how long does it take for the beans to germinate, pop up out of the ground?

romysbaskets · #19 08/17/12, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by clovis

Thank you for the reply!

I almost didn't post how the beans were becoming an obsession...I didn't think anyone would understand!!!

Hubby thought it was funny how I kept checking every day and yes I totally understand! I keep thinking I will find a bean out there, only to find..none..

However I have all kinds of different colors of flowers from all the varieties I planted.

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Originally Posted by clovis

Oh, BTW, how long does it take for the beans to germinate, pop up out of the ground?

They say 8 to 10 days or longer but less than 2 weeks seems a safe estimate. I got them to sprout right up in less than a week indoors easily, I know they say not to (my sister has been doing hers for years this way with loads of pole beans as a result). They really seem to need 60 degrees to 70 degrees ground temperature to sprout up outdoors so I knew June was going to be a bust with what I planted then..I was just hoping it would warm up..I was wrong. I found transplanting bean seedlings was really easy as long as you are very gentle with them! So those are blooming and doing very well. The ones I started outdoors at the same time are half the height of those I started indoors but they are all outside together now? I have yet to get a bean so far and it got hotter here...so far the flowers are staying on. These were all started in July though after I lost my June ones.

Jeepgirl86 · #20 08/17/12, 06:30 AM

I have been getting a handful of green beans about every two days, all summer from my bush Blue Lakes.

I have about 75 plants. Most of them have leaves that are mottled green and then they fall off. I've replanted twice now, hopefully this late summer/fall I'll do better. I'm not sure if it is because of lack of sun or a virus. I don't have an ideal spot for getting sunshine to my plants, but it's all I have right now.

wvdexters · #21 08/17/12, 06:43 AM

I lost all the pole beans beans I planted this spring. Too hot, too dry, I tried everything. Mulch, watering nothing helped. Plus I think they might have had a disease. The leaves looked wrong. I planted bush beans last mo. They are doing pretty well. I start picking tomorrow. Choose a good variety when you replant. Some varieties do better in harsh conditions like these.

clovis · #22 08/17/12, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by romysbaskets

Hubby thought it was funny how I kept checking every day and yes I totally understand! I keep thinking I will find a bean out there, only to find..none..

However I have all kinds of different colors of flowers from all the varieties I planted.

They say 8 to 10 days or longer but less than 2 weeks seems a safe estimate. I got them to sprout right up in less than a week indoors easily, I know they say not to (my sister has been doing hers for years this way with loads of pole beans as a result). They really seem to need 60 degrees to 70 degrees ground temperature to sprout up outdoors so I knew June was going to be a bust with what I planted then..I was just hoping it would warm up..I was wrong. I found transplanting bean seedlings was really easy as long as you are very gentle with them! So those are blooming and doing very well. The ones I started outdoors at the same time are half the height of those I started indoors but they are all outside together now? I have yet to get a bean so far and it got hotter here...so far the flowers are staying on. These were all started in July though after I lost my June ones.

Thank you!!!!!

romysbaskets · #23 08/18/12, 03:50 AM

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Thank you!!!!!

You are welcome!

Tell your wife....ROMY HAS BEANS! Today they just appeared, the little guys some an inch long and I have alot of them planted so...looking towards a haul maybe someday soon? There were dozens of them...cute as can be, my mouth is just watering! The winner of all the varieties I planted are the Coco Rubicos!~ Followed by The Trail of Tears! Oh and just like Sis says, the ones I started indoors are the ones that have the baby beans!

Ok your turn now!

Now as to the tomatoes??? They look awesome but with hundreds of blooms, there are only three green tomatoes, two are quite large...mmmmmm onto more gardening challenges!

Leay · #24 08/24/12, 02:12 AM

I have two tripods going with pole beans and they are doing really well considering the dry weather. I grow Trail of Tears and just this year I ordered McCaslan beans through Baker Creek. I'm really impressed with the McCaslans as they are stringless and they also seem to be much better producers. I would recommend them highly!

Rick · #25 08/24/12, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Leay

I have two tripods going with pole beans and they are doing really well considering the dry weather. I grow Trail of Tears and just this year I ordered McCaslan beans through Baker Creek. I'm really impressed with the McCaslans as they are stringless and they also seem to be much better producers. I would recommend them highly!

Are they OP?

Soupmaker · #26 08/24/12, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Are they OP?

Did they come from BC? Then yes. BC doesn't sell hybrids.

(Aren't all beans OP?)

Rick · #27 08/24/12, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Soupmaker

Did they come from BC? Then yes. BC doesn't sell hybrids.

(Aren't all beans OP?)

As far as I know all beans and peas are OP.

As far as your help on BC and hybrids..... "Well I never!!!"

Thanks for the info.

Do you have any idea if they have an OP sweet corn that is good for flour, eating and saving seed.
We have had good results with Stowell's Evergreen White Sweet corn, but I'm wondering if there is one that is slightly more dependable for for well formed ears. Ann is telling me in the background that our corn did not grow uniformly, and by replanting some spots the pollenating was not great.

I had never heard of BC ( I thought you meant British Columbia at first), and missed their name when I asked.

Soupmaker · #28 08/24/12, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

As far as I know all beans and peas are OP.

As far as your help on BC and hybrids..... "Well I never!!!"

Thanks for the info.

Do you have any idea if they have an OP sweet corn that is good for flour, eating and saving seed.
We have had good results with Stowell's Evergreen White Sweet corn, but I'm wondering if there is one that is slightly more dependable for for well formed ears. Ann is telling me in the background that our corn did not grow uniformly, and by replanting some spots the pollenating was not great.

I had never heard of BC ( I thought you meant British Columbia at first), and missed their name when I asked.

I don't know a a good OP sweet corn. Sweet corn is where I have to draw a line with OPs and buy hybrids.

Rick · #29 08/24/12, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Soupmaker

I don't know a a good OP sweet corn. Sweet corn is where I have to draw a line with OPs and buy hybrids.

Alas, my hopes are dashed. Thanks this Stowell's is close to the mark.

What are your complaints about the OP sweet corn - just not quite as finger licking good.

My apologies to the Orig.Poster for the huge thread drift!

Soupmaker · #30 08/24/12, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Alas, my hopes are dashed. Thanks this Stowell's is close to the mark.

What are your complaints about the OP sweet corn - just not quite as finger licking good.

My apologies to the Orig.Poster for the huge thread drift!

Poor germination, poor pollination and poor table quality.