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Old 07/04/12, 07:02 PM
 
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Eden garden method

Has anyone here tried it? We are this year at our new homestead and it is working. Even with solid 93+ heat and no rain the garden dosent look stressed and the plants are producing. Weed are almost non existent. When we have to pull they come out super easy. The soil under the mulch is still wet and cool. Dh is sold on the method. We have a tree service saving all the mulch for us.
What is your experiance if you have tried it?

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Old 07/04/12, 08:30 PM
 
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I have also tried this on a small portion of my garden and so far I am very pleased. Items that I put into the area were tomatoes, cucumbers, chard, and kale. I did try some sweet pea but they did not perform well at all. I also used this for some of my herbs and my blueberry plants which has made weeding painless.

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Old 07/04/12, 08:37 PM
 
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I would love to it. I watched & loved the movie, shared it with several friends, too. I want to try it next year.

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Old 07/04/12, 08:57 PM
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I haven't heard of this before. Info, please?

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Old 07/04/12, 10:58 PM
 
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I use this method in my Garden, right now it is roughly 4500sq/ft 4" deep. Just remember to add nitrogen. Weeding is a breeze, I finally got around to doing it after a couple of months, took me around 4 hours to weed the whole area. Which is nice because being that it is at a Community Church they have mandated we stay Organic.

Basically you cover your garden plot with wood chip mulch usually between 3-6" It acts as a natural weed block, locks moisture into the soil by being a barrier. This also allows for worms and other bugs like earwigs and sowbugs to munch on dead organic material at the top of the soil level instead of below it.

One big thing I noticed. The only pest I have in the Garden is slugs and snails. The wood chips provide the perfect environment for small spiders that are harmless (in my area) to people but thrive eating the harmful bugs that would normally eat my garden.

The only pesticide I have had to use was Sluggo to keep them away. Once it took effect the plants stopped getting munched.

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I didn't know it, until I saw the videos this spring, I was using the Eden method, but for about 12 years now, our soil has not seen a tiller. There are so many benefits it is unbelievable. Our grain farm has been no-till for many years, and with all the residue left after the harvest, and the soil not disturbed and smeared, and pulverized by tillage any more, our soils are improving dramatically. I thought I would do in my garden what I do in the field, and it is working fantastically. The only problem we really have had with this method is excessive rain. Too much rain, and well covered soil makes for waterlogged plants at times. But it still works, and I can see in dry areas where it would really shine.

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Old 07/05/12, 11:07 AM
 
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Welcome to Back to EdenÂ-Film!

Here is the website. You can watch the whole video on the site.
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Thanks!

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Old 07/05/12, 11:29 AM
 
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We are doing compost " coffee" just run water threw compost like a coffee pot and feed the plants that way. Well We dilute it. The plants are big beautiful and full of fruits. We are happy. We can only get out to the garden once a week and it's no big deal. My dh hates the weeding chore well till now.

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Old 07/07/12, 09:36 PM
 
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Just so you can think outside the box. You don't have to use just tree mulch. Leaves, grass, hay, straw. Any sort of mulch will work.

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Old 07/07/12, 10:22 PM
 
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Most often you can get tree mulch for free. The city workers usually dump it some place specifically so they don't have to pay dump fees while tree trimmers will have to pay to dump they jump at the opportunity to dump for free on people's property provided it is on their way.

Wood chips takes around a year or more to break down when it is sheet mulched.

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Old 07/09/12, 08:43 AM
 
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Ty for the movie link. I'm a big proponent of mulching, probably annoyingly so lol but the movie is bringing up points that even I hadn't thought of. And I'm only about halfway through it. It just makes so much sense when you consider how plants grow in nature. In nature the soil is alive and healthy and is always covered. Continuously tilled bare garden soil is not alive, or not much anyway.

I think everyone should mulch at least a small space in their garden for a couple years so they can see what a huge difference it makes.

If you watch the movie and aren't religious, just substitute "nature" for "God." The information is too important to let yourself be put off by religious differences. It could mean the difference between surviving or not in a situation where you had to grow your food but had no modern inputs available.

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Old 07/13/12, 11:34 AM
 
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Yes just ignor the religious comments if it's not your thing. I have to laugh we have done things so wrong for so long. Look at how nature provides and do it that way. I havent seen my garden in 3 weeks but my dh has been dealing with it. I can't wait to see it. I plan on going out today. The small kitchen garden I have here with old hay mulch is doing fantastic. The cantaloupe grew double just this week alone. Lettuce is in seed stage so I have seed to plant for more lettuce in a week or so. Tomatoes are doing good. My chickens killed my watermelon plant. So iMac have to have chicken soup just kiddin.
Mix square foot and companion planting with the Eden method. That would be one big producing garden! We are about to expand the garden at the property double. Have a lot of compost here and have a dump truck of chips waiting. My kitchen garden here would do better if it had the first morning sun not from 10 am on. I wanted it close to the house so I could be looking at it all the time.
I have been sick from May on so it has been very hard to get anything done. I'm so glad the Eden method works I we'd have no food this year.

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Old 07/13/12, 11:51 AM
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I didn't watch the video yet, but based on the comments here, I have always done this. I cover my whole garden with rabbit poop/bedding on a regular basis. I do it all summer long as I get maybe 6 wheelbarrow loads a week on average. In the fall as I finish harvest, I cover everything with at least 6 inches of rabbit bedding waste. In this manner, I plant things closer together and they thrive and weeds are slowly becoming less and less as time goes by.

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Old 07/13/12, 07:35 PM
 
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With the Eden you never till you just add as need. It's super easy and works so well.

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Old 07/13/12, 09:11 PM
 
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im doing it.

Im not religous, but the preachy parts where not very hard to get over at all. I kept wondering when he was gonna try to sell something , but the moment never came. This must really work if someone went through the trouble of making this movie, about the method. It also makes sence. I didn't feel like anything was a stretch, except maybe the pest resistance. My biggest problem here is soil compaction, and its trye with lots of mulch things don't compact. I volenteer at the local public rose garden, which is one of the larget of its kind. There is a deep mulch layer and we are always in the beds and it never get compacted.

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Old 07/13/12, 10:07 PM
 
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Paul has people to his house and has them eat freely of his gardens. He has always freely gave of his knowledge and food. I Am greatful of him making this video. So many people can witness and grow plenty of food to share in the dry conditions we find ourselves facing. I may be able to grow enough chard alone to keep my goats going with the lack of hay harvest there will be. Best thing is I gas gets too expensive I won't need to till so no big deal. I'll grab pictures of my garden tomorrow. Well I hope I remember to do so.
You can find him in videos on YouTube. Just look up Eden garden.

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Old 07/14/12, 03:57 PM
 
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I'm sitting in my Eden garden. I am in disbelief on its progress. My cabbage went from nothing to ready to pick small head. Without rain no less. My peppers are huge and loaded with peppers. I even have tomatoes going red. I have pictures. When I have a chance I'll do a snap bucket album and let y'all have a look.

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I'll be prepping this fall so I can start mine next year. I would love to see some photos. I'm always interested in how others are making it work. It's also nice to see real results from this method.

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Old 07/15/12, 09:58 AM
 
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Well I didnt even get to harvest yesterday. My dh went to go get the tractor and mower so we could in large the Eden garden for next year. Well he blew an injector on his truck dang!!! Out big tractor and mower are stuck in town on the broke down truck. On my way to get him my transmission started to act up! Can you say not good!
But I haven't gotten to try to do a new album on my snapbucket account. I will do my best to get it today. Dh computer isn't working. So can't do it that way. I have to run a couple of kids to the walk in clinic. So not sure when I can get to getting it all done. As soon as I get time I'll get the pics up.

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lots of videos on youtube, I can get all the sheep and horse manure I want for free and they will even load it , wood chips are $10 a heaping truck load and I can get saw dust for free . figured I would put a layer of manure, then sawdust ,more manure, then wood chips
My beds should be ready for spring planting . I will have to water each layer becouse it is bone dry here

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Ok after 3 hours of try try again I hope I have this! Or I'm going to cry!!!
Dang blamit it didn't work! I'm going to go cry now!

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I can't seen to copy the code and paste it. I'm so fed up! I'm so tired and just want to throw this stupid phone!!!!!!! Grrrrrr.
Sorry guys. When I have more steam I'll try again.

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Rags57078 sounds like you have great sources! Go for it you will love the results.

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Eden garden pictures by myheaven10 - Photobucket

next year im going to put the plants alot closer together. This was unproven soil with an unproven method. But as they say the proof is in the pudding. The garden is 32x64 and could easly produce double what I have in now.
Our church is looking to turn the side yard into an eden garden. our county ag agent is amazed by our garden. most everone else is burnt even with watering. we have no well or pump at the property. We could only bring out barrels of water at most once a week. ill shut up now.
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Very nice. Doesnt look like your plants are thirsty at all. Are you watering? I'd be curious to see how long the plants could go without any rain. Not to the point of killing them but just until they look thirsty.

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We only had a 55 gallon barrel we could take out once a week with water. 55 gallons isn't much When you have that much to water. We just purchased a 500 gallon water wagon. I was able to water about 1/2 the garden with 250 gallons of water. I went heavy on water due to those plants were producing fruit and needed more water. The beans looked a little stressed so I put a good 40 gallons on them. With the heavy flowering then the big drink i expect it to produce pretty good this week. We have put max 500 gallons of water on the garden this whole season.
The last time I seen my hot peppers they were only 2 inches tall. Now they are about a foot and a half and covered with flower buds. I know you can't tell but I planted the pepper plants in just turned over sod clump then covered in mulch. I didn't expect anything but looks like I have more pepper plants then I ever imagined.
I don't know if you can see but there hasn't been much in the way of Damage to the plants. Outside the garden there is a ton of grasshoppers eating the pasture inside there was none. Every where we walked in rhe pasture hundreds of grasshopper jumped away. No squash bugs, no potato beetles, no bean bugs.
I was very late at getting my garden in also. I got the water melon in middle to end of June. I can't wait till next year when the mulch gets to sit over winter.
I noticed that where there was exposed ground it was so hot you could only touch it for at most 3 seconds the mulch was nice and cool. The mulch really helps to deflect the excessive heat.
I didn't post the picture as I was too tired and frustrated. But in the pile of wood chips that go no water at all this year in the front corner of the garden was wet. It was about 4 inches thick. Threw out most of the garden the mulch is only an inch or two.

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We harvested some of the garden today. Planned a full day then dh told me there's a police chase near me. Thinking hes talking our first homestead. No just down the road for our new property. Just found out its 2 escaped convicts armed and have taken hostages. I didn't know it at the time. We chose to high tail it out of there when I heard the squirrels and robins sounding alarms. Let my front Amish neighbor to be on the look out.
So I didn't get many pictures today. I'm not going back out till they catch te guys.

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OMG that's terrible to hear. I hope they catch them soon. If they have hostages then you did the right thing for sure. If they didnt have hostages I woulda been pulling patrol out there and helping out the police.

Thanks for sharing your experience with this method, its very helpful and very encouraging. Its amazing that the wood chips stayed so much cooler than the dirt. Makes sense since wood is a good insulator. My garden area with 3 raised beds is much smaller than your garden and I have used a lot more water than you. I water every other day and sometimes every day at least 20-30 gallons. I dont have any muclch so thats a huge factor, I may just go throw some leaves around my plants for now. This heat doesnt look like its going to let up anytime soon.
My neighbor has a small woodchipper so we are going to start chipping this weekend and get a head start on the fall work I have to do. If I can get a day without any humidity I might even drop a few trees and open up my lower garden area with tomatos in it right now.

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It's going to be a while till I'm going to be able to update about the garden. My very healthy baby to be passed away. I have to take I easy till my baby births. Not sure when I will be allowed to get back to normal work. But I'll update pictures when I can.

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