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Old 03/27/04, 05:37 AM
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Wanted: Hickory Cane Corn Seeds

I have been trying to find Hickory Cane corn seeds without success. Each time I get a promising lead it turns out to be Hickory King, which is somewhat similar in plant appearance, but a different corn. Hickory Cane was prized by the locals who used it as sweet corn, fodder, hominy and white corn meal. Plants grow very tall and had a very large ear with large white kernels. Any leads would be greatly appreciated as even the Seed Saver's Exchange isn't familiar with it.

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Old 03/27/04, 10:04 PM
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Are you sure their not the same? I know who would know but I can't find their store they changed names this year.

But I'm thinking Hickory King is what I use for Roasting Ears and Hominy,Big White Kernels.

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I went to Hickory King and this is what I came up with,I think it is the same

Hickory King (large)
This white dent corn produces the largest kernels of any corn grown and is used in the making of cornnuts. Also excellent for hominy grits and cornmeal and is popular as a roasting corn when the ears are still young. It also is a tasty corn for freezing. The 8 foot plant produces an ear 8 to 9 inches in length with 10 to 12 rows of kernels. Good silage corn due to its large bulk.

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Ken, I grew some hickory king one year-man, talk about big corn. However, it is difficult to judge starch/sugar levels, and I did not realy care for it. I can imagine it would do well for homin/meal, though. Anyways, I hope you can find what (Hickory Cane)you are looking for. (I found my seed at a small local hardware)

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Big Rockpile:

I don't know. The local old-timers have tried Hickory King and say is just isn't the Hickory Cane they remember as kids. I have also received some e-mail request for seeds from people saying the same thing. They purchased Hickory King thinking it is what they knew as a kid only to be disappointed. Locally is it is just grown for large sweetcorn ears now. It could be a name difference for the same plant which has been modified over the years.

The bed on my flatbed is 10'. When I have cut Hickory King for cattle feed it was a couple of feet longer than the bed. Thus, I think it grows more like 9-12 feet fall.

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I don't know. The local old-timers have tried Hickory King and say is just isn't the Hickory Cane they remember
Sad to say it, but the Hickory Cane variety might have become "lost".

It has happened to many seed varieties over the course of time.
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Ken,

I don't know if this will help or not, I'm not real familiar with corn types. Sounds like you have to jump through a few hoops like joining, sending a growing journal plus a 3rd of the seed back to them and a 3rd to another farmer after you get and grow the seed. Might be worth a try.

If you scroll down to "Southern Seed Legacy Seed Photographs" and check out #430 I hope this is what you're looking for.

From the University of Georgia:

The purpose of this website is to educate people on the various projects being undertaken to conserve the southern legacy of seeds and knowledge. The projects are under the leadership of the Ethnoecology and Biodiversity Lab as well as the Sustainable Human Ecosystems Lab located at the University of Georgia in Athens, Georgia.
http://www.uga.edu/~ebl/southernheirloom/

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I received the following in an e-mail. I assume it is the 2004 issue.

"Hi Ken, in the April/May Mother Earth News on pg 64 there is a mention of Hickory King being descended from Hickory Cane corn. The description sounds like Hickory Cane. Guess I'll try it. Better close than nothing at all. If I ever come across the real thing I'll let you know. Thanks and good luck. Al"

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I have been trying to find Hickory Cane corn seeds without success.
Ken,

I found a strange listing on Hickory Cane Corn. Does the following sound familiar to what you know about it?

Chickasaw Hickory Cane – 130 days – A late season Hickory King type with white and blue kernels.

http://www.sandhillpreservation.com/Seeds.htm#CORN
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Doens't sound like the same thing. Hickory Cane is not listed at the GA site.

I will be having Hickory King grown for me this year for green cattle fodder. The big field by the trailer will be planted in soybeans this year. There is a road going through the middle about 1,000' long. Guys who rent the field have agreed to plant eight rows of corn on both sides of the road when they plant field corn in another large field. Just a matter of their being careful on spray-down and putting different seeds in the hoppers. That field adjoins where my cows will be for the summer so it will be fairly easy to cut them a truckload on a regular basis. If I don't use it all, they will have access to what is left standing after the beans are harvested

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Doens't sound like the same thing. Hickory Cane is not listed at the GA site.
Are you sure the variety "Chickasaw Hickory Cane" listed at the sandhill preservation site is not even close?

It was the most promising listing I found so far, because they also mention Hickory King as well as Hickory Cane, hence two different varieties of corn.
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Hickory Cane is not listed at the GA site.

Ken S. in WC TN
Sorry Ken for not explaining myself better. My computer was acting up and that was my third attempt at posting.

When you go to: http://www.uga.edu/~ebl/southernheirloom/ scroll down to "Southern Seed Legacy Seed Photographs". This takes you to the page they are calling their catalog, it's pictures only. When you get to that page, scroll all the way to the bottom of the page and Hickory Cane is listed as number 430. It's the second one up on the right side of the page. That page is tough to read.

You have to join to be able to order the seed. I didn't read all the particulars but there's one membership that's free.
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When you go to: http://www.uga.edu/~ebl/southernheirloom/ scroll down to "Southern Seed Legacy Seed Photographs". This takes you to the page they are calling their catalog, it's pictures only. When you get to that page, scroll all the way to the bottom of the page and Hickory Cane is listed as number 430.
There is one problem with that. It does have a picture of Hickory Cane Corn Seed listed on the website.

However....

They provide list of "available" seeds at the following address.

http://www.uga.edu/~ebl/PASS/availableseeds.html

Hickory Cane is *NOT* on that list.
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