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Old 04/08/09, 09:15 AM
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What edible plant will grow in shade and dry conditions?

I have an area about 20' X 50' in which I'd like to plant something that could be used for chicken feed. It's shady, and I'd like to avoid doing much watering (our water rates are really high here).

I can't think of anything that would work. Any ideas?
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Old 04/12/09, 05:56 PM
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Bumping..I'd like ideas for edible plants that can tolerate some shade too.
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Old 04/12/09, 06:15 PM
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completely shady all day?
that's not easy
generally leaf plants will grow - not as big but productively - I had lettuce in front of the jersualam artichoke last year and was suprised at how well it did.
I wouldn't try peppers, tomatoes or that kind of thing
My first year of potatoes had only about 4 hours sun a day and they did amazingly well

apparently my experience is in line with others too
http://www.colostate.edu/Dept/CoopEx...t/vegshady.htm
http://www.garden-services.com/vegshade.html
what of those things might your chickens like?
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do you mean something you'd like to pick for them or an area you could let them in and graze?
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do you mean something you'd like to pick for them or an area you could let them in and graze?
It would work best if it were something I could pick for them. But it could be grazeable, it just wouldn't be convenient to get them there to graze.
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Old 04/12/09, 06:41 PM
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miners lettuce? bedstraw? In ca, where I grew up, thats what grew like weeds in dry shade.
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What is miner's lettuce?
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First of all what kinds of trees as this does make a difference.

For the past seven years I've been growing cabbages, mustard greens, broccli, etc., under my supposed dwarf crabapple tree. I say supposed because it's now about 22 feet tall - not exactly dwarf. The remainder of the garden is shaded by the neighbors old fashioned crabapple tree which is about 12 feet tall and the canopy is huge. I've also grown squash quite successfully under these trees and a variety of herbs.

This year I will be planting under these trees, lettuce, more mustard greens, kale, chard, spinage, kolrabi, more cabbages, blue hubbard squash, peas.

My garden is also partially shaded by mine and our neighbors house so the whole garden gets about 4 hours of sun per day.

If you soil is loose and loamy you can also grow carrots, parsnips, radishes, beets, etc.

Currant bushes will do well also.

If you tree is highly acidic, such as a pine or a red oak, then you will have to work around the acidity level.

Heavily mulching reduces the need for watering, we are shredding our leaves and our neighbors leaves and have made a leaf mulch pile.

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First of all what kinds of trees as this does make a difference.
Pecan and elm.

Zero direct sun during the summer. It's VERY shady.

Alkaline soil.
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Pecan and elm.

Zero direct sun during the summer. It's VERY shady.

Alkaline soil.
So your in zone 6 or 7 then? Just curious is all.

Your going to have to work on your soil first or find plants that love alkaline soil. Asparagus loves alkaline soil but it also loves sunlight.

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Check out this link on what grows with what tree or I should say doesn't grow with certain trees. Seems elm trees are a natural weed killer just like walnut

http://earthfriendlygardening.wordpr...s-weedkillers/
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Not sure if these are good for feeding chickens. Here is a list of the more shade-tolerant vegetables. However, some of these don't like a lot of heat.
GREENS:
• arugula
• cabbage
• kale
• lettuce
• mustard greens
• pak choi
• parsley
• sorrel
• spinach
ALLIUMS:
• chives (can be invasive)
• garlic chives
• onions
HERBS:
• cardamom
• mint (invasive, likes moist soil)
LEGUMES:
• peas
• bush beans
BERRIES:
• blackberry
• currants
• gooseberry
• strawberries
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Old 04/13/09, 03:58 PM
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Your going to have to work on your soil first or find plants that love alkaline soil.
It will likely be for this summer only. No time to work the soil, and will be pointless in the long run, since hopefully it will be a chicken pen there by next year.
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Not sure if these are good for feeding chickens. Here is a list of the more shade-tolerant vegetables. However, some of these don't like a lot of heat.
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Which can take the heat? It often gets +110* here in the summer.

Think "desert conditions".
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