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Old 02/23/10, 06:56 PM
 
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What can be done with this lens?

I saw this in a catalog I got and have been trying to find a way to use it to heat water. If it melts pennies it should heat water, but might not be controllable.

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Old 02/23/10, 08:22 PM
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You could build a larger version of this

Yes they can be used to heat water. Work good to heat a small volume to high temperature.

The main problem is they need a tracker to keep them focused.
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You do realize you can get this same lens for free if you take an old 50" rear screen projection tv and remove the screen from it? That is undoubtedly where they are getting theirs.

Simply put, it is not suitable for heating water. You would need too much supporting tech to make it work.
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Old 02/25/10, 11:23 AM
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Yeah, may not be usable for heating a large volume of water but it's really cool. Sadly I fall into the under-mature category so I won't be able to have one.

How about a solar cooker? Here's a link to a site where they built one using a similiar lens.

http://www.solarcooker-at-cantinawes...lar-grill.html
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Old 02/25/10, 06:55 PM
 
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You do realize you can get this same lens for free if you take an old 50" rear screen projection tv and remove the screen from it? That is undoubtedly where they are getting theirs.

Simply put, it is not suitable for heating water. You would need too much supporting tech to make it work.
Old 50" projection TVs aren't exactly growing on trees around here. I've never even seen one and wouldn't know where to find one. But if I ever do see one at the dump, I will own the fresnel lens from it.

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Yeah, may not be usable for heating a large volume of water but it's really cool. Sadly I fall into the under-mature category so I won't be able to have one.

How about a solar cooker? Here's a link to a site where they built one using a similiar lens.

http://www.solarcooker-at-cantinawes...lar-grill.html
Are you under-mature because of age or because you would have to try and melt everything you found, like I would?

The cooker looks interesting, but the thought of burning my hand off at the wrist while reaching to flip a burger is off-putting.

Maybe run some water lines through some kind of heat-resistant material and let the rays focus on that to heat the pipes inside. That would hold down the chance of burning a hole in the pipe if it ever had an empty spot, and would also give more mass to transfer the heat.
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Old 02/25/10, 10:59 PM
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take a look at http://www.builditsolar.com/index.htm It has many DIY projects using Fresnel type lenses, magnifying sheets, etc. Plus, we all remember using a magnifying glass to wreak havoc on the unsuspecting ant hill. A lot of fun available, and some practical uses as well. I have built several solar thermo-siphon heaters from plans from this site.
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Are you under-mature because of age or because you would have to try and melt everything you found, like I would?
Definately the later...I been known to run with scissors too!
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