I'm pretty much there with ziptie, with a bit more hesitancy lol

You haven't had an oh crap moment until you put a bullet in a bulls head and he just looks at you.

Omg yes never tried that...

I trust you have kept a record by date and time, as well as photos of the animal and the damage it has inflicted on your yard, etc., of the occasions when this animal has been on your property.

Find out what the laws are in your location and proceed from there with either animal control or the sheriff.

If he can easily hop over a 4 ft fence, he probably will jump out of any pen not built for elk and be next to impossible to load out. I wouldn't want to be in the front row at the auction when he came thru, either!

I didn't re-read the whole thread. Has the owner been talked to? If so, and failed to take care of the problem, then calling the law is the next step. If they can't/won't do anything, shooting the bull the next time he is on your property might be the only option left. Unless there are any GOOD cowboys in your area that could get the bull loaded and hauled to the auction. Sale proceeds would go to the owner, minus your expenses to hire the cowboys and the hauling.

Owner I've contacted several times, and spoken to the other people in his household. Bull didn't show this morning, because the pond in the pasture is now full from the amazing storm last night.
I've pretty well given up on the owner. If I see it again I'll take pics in case it runs off before the police get there, and then call the police.
No cowboys here anymore, and I don't have a trailer because my family hasn't had large livestock in about fifteen years. So auction or rounding up is out. Most I could do is run him into our barn and close the door but if he didn't kill me he would tear that old barn apart I'm sure.

No, I haven't been keeping records because in the past he has always sold any problem cows. I should have been. But my neighbors all think it's cute and that I'm overreacting, so I've tried to let it go.
You can bet I will in the future though!

Well, SO should be home in a few and I've got to go clean out the spring because we have no water, I'm guessing due to a lot of crap being washed into the reservoir from the storm last night. I have to walk by part of the bulls pasture to get there. If I see him I'll snap a pic. Sigh.

ohhh..don't want to lock in him in the barn. Learned really the hard way on that one...Bought a 6 month old Angus steer from neighbours. Wanted it in the stall until it got settled. Had another neighbour help back up the trailer to the stall to unload. Got him unloaded..all was well for about 10 min as we were patting ourselves on the back on how easy that was.

Well.....broke through the 2x4's and plywood wall. The thing was literally climbing the walls. Kept him the barn as he systemically was destroying things. Bikes, tables,pulling things off the walls,kicking in the shed doors. I should of just shot the thing, but somehow we got it loaded back up in the trailer and sent it back. Never again...we have too small of place... only bottle feed calves from now on. I was told that this one was his more friendly cattle.:smack

That 6 month old Angus calf was probably fresh off the cow. They can be desperate to get back to mommy, especially a solo calf. I would bet that calf hadn't been thru a proper weaning process is why you had so much trouble. Separated from mom and herd mates at the same time, they panic.

The last time we had 1 calf to wean, we took her over to our son's place and put with some slightly older cattle we had previously weaned over there without any problems. After putting her back in the fence many times over 3 days, one time she was found half a mile down the highway, we brought her back home. She won! She is a calm brood cow today, she wasn't a wild one, it was just the circumstances.

No sign of the bull but my daughter and I did find a turtle I'm stuck with now...

Ever consider pepper spray or bear spray? Why doesn't the entire herd follow the bull? And how does the bull get back into the pasture, jumps the fence again? Very entertaining thread, for me at least....Topside

Never thought about pepper spray. May just tick it off. Yes he jumps back in. And the other cows stand at the fence and they holler back and forth to each other.

Why does he keep coming to your place if the pool is now empty? Maybe it's just a habit that's hard to break. Eliminate the reasons for the visit and you should eliminate him...

I've seen him stick around eating grass for a good thirty minutes after he drinks. Maybe he just figures it's good grazing at this point?

This is a weird issue....Here it is the owners responsibility to keep any male animal fully contained. If it escapes, damages property, injures other animals or people, the owner of the male animal has to pay fully for it. And the property owner has full right to kill it if it becomes dangerous.

I don't understand why you didn't call the cops the first time it came around. And him not watering him is animal cruelty, so he should be fined on several counts.

Didn't call before because he's always fixed it prior to this. And because my mom royally witched me out when I suggested it, saying I was mean. She lives next door and thinks it's cute.

I guess I am glad it rained... but I really wanted to see pics of this bull drinking from the swimming pool.

It sounds like you are handling it well, good luck.

Well we've unfortunately put away the big inflatable swimming pool for the year now because of colder nighttime temps. You're right I should have took pictures, I was so mad it didn't occur to me.

I tend to agree with reporting it to sheriff and the humane society but what about a big bucket on his side of the fence that you can fill with a hose from your side of the fence, maybe he would not jump the fence if he knew he had some water near by.
We had a buffalo come through our yard last year, he just walk on through, but they had to shoot him because the owner could not catch him and he was considered very dangerest

It'd be about a quarter mile to the closest fenceline at his place.

Well if you're ready for some positive news, grass killing frost and the rainy season is not far off. Sure hope you don't have a barn full of hay. Seriously, how is the cow herd going to be fed this coming winter if the owner won't mend his fences....I'm done with this thread, very entertaining.....Topside Out.

He usually leaves out round bales for them. And the pond stays full in winter. As I said before, if I notice they don't have water or if I see the bull again, I will call the police. I just feel that at this point I have no proof, since his pond is full and the bull has not returned.
Also, the fences are not down. This bull is jumping them.

You could put an ad on Craigslist.

Free Bull!
You come capture it and take it with you, ITS YOURS FOR FREE!

You will probably have your problem solved in 24 hours.

Ha Ha that's a good idea, but I am thinking that either he sold it or someone shot it or caught it, because it's not in his field anymore

i hate to do it to a Neighbor but it is time to call animal control
(good that the bull is no more but i might still call them, the cows he still has need water)

Bull came back today! I called the police. An officer was here surprisingly quickly. He did laugh, but he used his SUV to chase the bull up the road and he saw it jump the barbed wire fence back onto the owners property.
Officer is going to go speak with the owner and tell him he must put up another strand of barbed wire or a hot wire on top. If he doesn't comply, I'm to call the police again and they will charge him. With what I don't know.
The cows now have water so he the officer says he can't charge him with neglect.
Here's some crappy pics which don't do the bull full justice. I wasn't getting too close!
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I have been told that cows come and go but the bull goes on forever.

I hope it goes on and doesn't come back lol

That's just a cow freshener, not a herd bull. Probably a calf he couldn't catch is why he is still around.


My inlaws are at the point they need to get rid of the cattle they have. It's a sad day when people refuse to adapt to changes in their lives and endanger them selves and others because they can't fully care for their livestock.

Allen W, he has no other bulls. As I said, I was quite a ways away. My dad who has butchered cattle guesstimates this bull at around at least a thousand pounds lol.
It stands taller than me, at 5'5

If that was my cross bred, narrow hipped bull he would be long gone. Lot simpler than putting up another strand of wire(probably wouldn't help anyway) or a hot wire(probably would solve problem).

COWS

No way putting up another strand would help, the way he jumps. And as overgrown as the fenceline is no way he'll put in the work to electrify it.

handymama what part of TN are you in?

Carter county, close to the north Carolina border

one strand of electric on the top can stop an over 2000 lb bull, that is in love with the neighbors cows, and thinks he's the only one for them... he had jumped the fence (field) better than those professional jumping horses do! so he new how to get to the other side. lol. true story.

Bull was just back with two cows this time. Took pics and police are on their way. This is twice I've had the police out here over this now.

Ok, cop said he's going to go talk to the guy again. Not that he'll care.
He told me that if it happens again I can go down to the court house and take out a summons against him for livestock running at large and it wouldn't cost me anything. Said he would have to answer for it in court and I may have to give witness to what I've seen.
Hate to do that to a neighbor but I'm beyond sick of this. Where it's been raining three days now they've left huge holes in my yard and I'm gonna have a Heck of a time mowing now, and I have more cow poop to shovel up.
Topping it all off, my parents next door think it's hilarious. Mom just hung out of her window laughing and yelling where's the beef. And dad hollered to call the turtle man. No biggie to them if their grandkids get trampled I reckon. I think they're a mite touched in the head.

You are so right, this is no joke. In our county the bull would be loaded up by animal control, the owner summoned for the costs, and if not reclaimed, it's sold off. Keep making dated photographs. (It sure does look like junk)

You need to get law enforcement to pack it off, not just shoo it away for a while, before you have to sue for injury or worse.

No joke, is right!
Bulls are dangerous!

I admittedly have not read the entire thread - the endless back and forth really got to me. According to the date on the OP, this has been going on for almost a month! If the neighbor had a pack of pits roaming around loose, pet grissley, giant python that just kept getting loose...

People's lives are at stake, chidren's lives as well, and members here are worried about the life of a bull??? I feel sorry for the poor thristy neglected animal too, but that is totally not the point.

The only possible complication to this to be sure about the local fencing laws. For example, IA has some specific laws about which adjoining neighbor is responsible for which fencing. When I used to live in IA, the the neighbor's cow's once got out. I repaired the section of fence line I was responsible for, and he repaired the length of it he was responsible for. HIS cows, but I was responsible for "my" section of the fence.