And This Is Why You Don't Make a Pet of a BULL

I've always considered sows with piglets worse than a bull. But I completely agree with the point being brought up.

Faith, Family, Worship, Work.

A neighbor carried a club to "teach his Red Angus some manners" if he ever showed aggression. When the bull snorted and shook his head at him, he whacked him, the bull didn't like his lesson and put him in intensive care for a week with blunt force and crush trauma. He survived only because he was close to a fence and was butted/pushed under the fence out of reach and his wife found him quickly.

The folks that think a club makes them equal to or able to fend off a bull with it are overly optimistic or terribly ill informed. Might as well carry a feather duster, it would be just about as effective.

I hope your friend will be alright. And Yes, he needs to go immed.

We made a similar mistake once. Bottle raised a jersey bull. Sweet little thing. He would have killed me if my dog hadn't turned him. She held him while I ran and got through the fence. Cut up, but safe and much wiser.

He tasted very good.

Hope she is getting better. I am being more careful with the cows.

The folks that think a club makes them equal to or able to fend off a bull with it are overly optimistic or terribly ill informed. Might as well carry a feather duster, it would be just about as effective.[/QUOTE]

just so, and never try to teach a bull manners with a stick or club you will just end up making him mean. Hope your friend is better soon

all male livestock no matter how big or how small need to be respected as such, they are there for ONE reason and ONE reason only, ill tempered ones should be culled right away but just because the next one is sweet doesn't mean you need to make a pet of it, a ram, buck, boar or Rooster can be just as aggressive, just because they are a smaller package doesn't mean they cant hurt you or someone smaller.

If you raise a bull to use for breeding, sell him before he hits two years old. If you want an older bull, buy one raised by someone else: You'll never think about trusting him when you didn't raise him from a baby.

I hope Carol makes a full recovery. That's a heck of a thing to have happen to someone.

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-Northern NYS

Come to think of it, A.I. isn't such a hassle after all.

Carol should come home tomorrow. She's having to learn how to get around wearing a back brace.

Won't hear of sending the bull, Norman, to sale barn or processor. "It wasn't his fault, I startled him." OK...not my bull or my back. They are keeping him in a smallish pen and her husband is the only who goes in to feed.

Hope this serves as a reminder to everybody to be careful around animals in general, she could have been paralyzed or killed.

Thanks for all the prayers and healing thoughts.

I was very lucky, I raised my Norman from a bottle, cute as a button, loves me, still could kill me without meaning 2, when we moved I had him made a steer, I didn't want him getting out after cows in heat. didn't realize how lucky I was I did that; he was getting close to 2, when I think about I sometimes had my kids feed for me, I feel woozy and very very blessed. he lets my mini push him around, seriously, not a mean bone in his body, He is now enormous, the biggest jersey my vet has ever seen, very friendly, and still I don't turn my back for one minute or go in the pasture without my dog, ever, or a quick escape plan. the only bull on my place is little Walden, he is a miniature cross, and I still keep my eye on him I don't know if getting her bull made a steer now would do much good...I also had Normans horns tipped and a ring put in his nose, but he took that out one day and I still don't know how...

This is Alaska's wife here and these posts have been a wake up call for me. Today when I went into the pasture w/ the cows our "sweet" bull gave me a pause. I certainly plan to be way more careful in the future. Hope all heals well. Nothing happens fast but damage!

I don't know if having him steered now would make much difference. I have a steer, he was cut at 4 months, two years old now, Dexter, with horns, top of the feed chain, with the cooler weather he makes me nervous. I know he just feels good and is young but he gets pushy when I feed a small can of cubes. He is headed to processor on the 18th, I can watch him until then.

My guardian angel must have got a lot of grey in his wings when I was growing up. I was always messing with the neighbors cattle. I never knew that cows could be mean, and I just thought the bull was cool. I have learned ALOT from HT and I am thankful for all the lessons from all of you. Sure hope Carol has a full recovery, will be praying.

i grew up on a dairy farm with bulls running with the cows these were bulls we raised on the farm when they were born till 2 months old then moved to our grower farm barn till about a year old they were sent to our dry cow/ heifer barn and were raised there till we shipped them or used them for the dairy herd

so needless to say ive been around alot of bulls over the years not scared of them so to say but scared of what they can do to you and we use to leave the horns on the bulls for a couple years till a bull got it stuck and ripped it off

now i raise hogs and just a couple cows for beef and i will say any animals male or female can turn on you in a matter of seconds

just glad she is alive

Carol needs an intervention: Norman wasn't startled, Norman was being a bull. He should have been on a truck the day after it happened. Tell her the next time it will be her husband and HE might not be as lucky as she was.

I know that sounds mean, but to hear that's the way she's talking after what happened is really upsetting to me.

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Jennifer L.: I agree, he would be on a truck and gone.

I also am mean, because I have put down a dog who turned and bit at me.

I also have shipped horses that I decided needed more training than I could handle.

Those were my choices, my animals.

Carol considers herself an "animal lover" not an "animal realist". Of course, right now, she is an animal with a broken back.

A couple people mentioned counting on dogs. What kind of dogs and what training do they have?

My brother-in-law's former in-laws own a dairy farm. Their Holstein bull went after Ray and put him in the hospital for two weeks. This was not the first time the bull had gone after someone, but the last straw in a long sequence of events. When he got out and could hobble down to the barn with a cane and a .22, he took care of the problem. He said he just didn't feel right sending him to the sale and selling him to his next potential victim.

My aussie saved me when I was attacked by a dairy cow. He had no training, just knew I was in trouble and I needed help fast. When he attacked the cow she went after him too and also threw him in the air. That made him so mad he went after her and gave her a bloody nose and then put every cow in the barn and wouldn't let them out. I think it depends on the dog, not their breed or training.

Aussies are at least a herding breed. My dogs are hunting breeds, I'm still working on training them not to chase down the livestock...