deer vs pastures

sammyd · #21 02/11/12, 09:52 AM

the DNR guy told a buddy of mine to string a strand of electric fence around whatever you're trying to protect. Smear the wire with peanut butter and then turn it on.
The deer will try getting the peanut butter, get a shock and leave the patch alone....

Never tried it though. Ended up moving to the city the next year.

gwithrow · #22 02/11/12, 05:25 PM

well you never know.....today the local, county wildlife officer came out...said he didn't really see where the deer were causing a problem, then proceeded to give us the permit?????? ok these guys make no sense to me at all....I don't care either, in fact the permit allows for night hunting with lights...

I just for the life of me do not understand how these people all work, or don't work together....one says only plant fescue, leave the deer alone and and the other says no plant all this other stuff to add diversity and rotate the livestock and let the pastures rest in between....which does not have a provision for deer eating willy nilly.....and in the end we pay the taxes and live with how we care for the land....and animals...I am all for wildlife, it just has to stay off the pastures...so we will see what the hunter can do for us....

myersfarm · #23 02/11/12, 06:09 PM

permit DOES IT let any body hunt or just owner...and is there a number or as many as you can kill....all year long even when they have fawns

...I sure do not understand either.....would seem people that wanted to hust deer out of season would just plant there pasture...I am not saying you are doing that but I know people that would

therookie · #24 02/16/12, 01:36 PM

So were the hunters able to take out any deer??

gwithrow · #25 02/16/12, 01:58 PM

I think that here in NC, owners can hunt anytime...on their land...and I don't think we need to have a permit...the permit we got is for our designated person.

our designated hunter is working on the deer, he was out last evening and I am pretty sure he got one...we have this permit for this one hunter for one month...after that it is up to us, if we want to take out more...

I like the deer well enough, but they need to stay in their area, which is not my pastures...we will see...

myersfarm · #26 02/16/12, 02:22 PM

I think that here in NC, owners can hunt anytime...

I know state laws are different but I KNOW of no conservation dept that will let you
KILL ANYTHING WHEN THEY ARE RAISING BABIES

not even Coyotes when the have babies in Missouri

65284 · #27 02/16/12, 02:56 PM

State wildlife agencies usually don't want deer destroyed......unless the taker has purchased a permit/license/tag etc.

Those agencies take in millions a year in fees every year, they are more interested in their bottom line than any damage to pastures and row crops.

They've got a heck of a racket going, for the most part land owners raise the wildlife and endure all of the aggravation and monetary loss and the agencies collect and keep all of the money. But, IF you own enough land in Missouri they will allow to harvest one of those deer. Real generous of them huh?

I have to ride the perimeter and cross fences at least twice a week to check, untangle and reattach wire to the posts, just generally repair damage caused by the blasted deer. I can't leave lick tubs or salt blocks in the back pastures, or the deer decimate them very quickly.

myersfarm · #28 02/16/12, 05:26 PM

65284 the amount is 70 acres if you own that much each member of your family gets to kill 2 deer with gun and 2 with a bow...this year and it is free...also turkey tags are free....but different states are different

therookie · #29 02/17/12, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myersfarm

I think that here in NC, owners can hunt anytime...

I know state laws are different but I KNOW of no conservation dept that will let you
KILL ANYTHING WHEN THEY ARE RAISING BABIES

not even Coyotes when the have babies in Missouri

Here in Iowa, you can hunt coyotes year round, no restrictions....

southerngurl · #30 02/17/12, 08:28 AM

Plant some row crops, when the deer are eating that, get a permit. Right now you can plant radishes, turnips, lettuce (and baby lettuce sells well), spinach etc. and they will be up and getting eaten by deer fairly soon.

I don't know how much of your acreage is planted in pasture, but the egg spray works well. I think it's one egg per gallon, so a few eggs can go a long way. But it does have to be reapplied after a rain.

Soap won't work. We had a pet deer years ago and I put some irish spring in my little garden to try and keep him out of it. He went over there and started eating the soap. He also ate some ear plugs, a hamburger, tomato hornworms etc.

People say goats eat anything, nah it's deer that do that.

southerngurl · #31 02/17/12, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myersfarm

permit DOES IT let any body hunt or just owner...and is there a number or as many as you can kill....all year long even when they have fawns

...I sure do not understand either.....would seem people that wanted to hust deer out of season would just plant there pasture...I am not saying you are doing that but I know people that would

I know my uncle that grew watermelons was able to kill deer out of season. However, he was not allowed to harvest the meat, he had to leave it lie.

francismilker · #32 02/17/12, 10:53 AM

Go to every barber shop and beauty shop for miles around your area and get all the hair clippings you can muster up. Sprinkle them around the perimeter of your place. It works for me for a few days until they get used to it.

ramiller5675 · #33 02/17/12, 01:08 PM

Have you tried to figure out how much the deer are actually eating?

Take something like woven wire and a couple of fence posts and build a small enclosure so that the deer can't reach the forage (it only needs to be about 2-3 feet in diameter). The difference in the inside forage and the outside forage will show you what they are eating.

Once you have an estimate of how much they are eating then you can start trying to kill every deer in sight (which is what it is going to take to lower their numbers significantly).

Or, just put your cattle out there and let them chase the deer away.

pancho · #34 02/17/12, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ramiller5675

Have you tried to figure out how much the deer are actually eating?

Take something like woven wire and a couple of fence posts and build a small enclosure so that the deer can't reach the forage (it only needs to be about 2-3 feet in diameter). The difference in the inside forage and the outside forage will show you what they are eating.

Once you have an estimate of how much they are eating then you can start trying to kill every deer in sight (which is what it is going to take to lower their numbers significantly).

Or, just put your cattle out there and let them chase the deer away.

That is the way many places use to determine if deer are actually eating crops.

oregon woodsmok · #35 02/18/12, 02:22 AM

I'm not so sure that cattle will run deer off. I've seen a lot of deer grazing in the same pasture as a herd of cattle.

The deer never came into my pasture. Not because of the cattle or horses, but because I had Scottish Deerhounds.

pancho · #36 02/18/12, 08:37 AM

We have had problems with deer getting up in the feed troughs and fighting the cows off. Had a large buck we had to cull for that reason.

Farmer2B · #37 02/18/12, 08:35 PM

The Peanut butter trick works very well, with many other animals too.

nchobbyfarm · #38 02/19/12, 07:24 PM

The land owner can not hunt out of season. What the land owner is allowed is to not need tags on the deer you shoot on your land but they must be killed in season. Glad you got your permit. That is why I suggested Raleigh. You normally get someone that has some sense eventually. Congrats. I hope the hunter gets enough before he runs out of bullets.

coontrapper · #39 02/20/12, 08:07 AM

I had the same problem a few years ago with deer eating my over seeded meadow. I solved it by feeding them lead instead.