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springvalley 01/25/12 07:44 AM

Cattle lingo !!
 
One of my pet-peeves on this forum, and I don`t mean to be critical. People should learn the terms when dealing with cattle. For one thing if you go to a farm or sale barn looking for cattle, you will look like you know what your looking for, even if you maybe don`t.

Calf - newborn off spring from a cow
Bull - Uncastrated male
Heifer - Female offspring, that has not had a calf
Steer - Castrated bull
Cow - Female bovine that has had a calf
Springer or Springing heifer - Heifer that is due to have a calf
Dry cow - Cow that is between lactations, that is not curently milking
Fresh cow - Cow that has just had a calf
Cull Cow - Cow that is headed to butcher
Cattle - any bovine animal

Now I may have missed a couple, and differant parts of the country may have another name for something. And as I said I don`t mean to be critical, I just want you to learn what to call bovine of differant sexes, and ages. > Thanks Marc:clap:

stifflej 01/25/12 08:06 AM

One that confused me at first was "heifer bull"...and from my understanding it is a bull which throws small calves to ease the first calf birth of a heifer (did I explain that right?)

Allen W 01/25/12 09:05 AM

Bred cow - bred cow or springer
Open cow - not bred
Broken mouth - missing teeth
solid mouth - has all her front teeth they get all of their permanent front teeth at 4 years old.

Short and solid - still has all teeth but wearing short
Shelly if you hear this they are wore out bottom end slaughter cow.

Patrick 01/25/12 09:43 AM

I agree, it irritates me when to some people all cattle are "cows".
The use of improper terminology is not limited to cattle.
Boys and girls are human children.
Ladies are classy human females.
Kids are young goats. (OK, maybe acceptable for young humans, but I still prefer children.)
Female chickens are hens or pullets.
Male chickens are cocks, cockerels or roosters, not a word which resembles baby talk.
Droppings are stool, manure, or waste, unless I'm talking with a three year old.

Karen in Alabam 01/25/12 09:59 AM

And Short Bred is not a cookie

Karen in Alabam 01/25/12 10:01 AM

Springer isn't a term I have heard yet. And I suppose I get your pet peeves, though it isn't one of mine.

One of mine is people calling yellow jackets, wasps and hornets---bees. They are not bees.

Rocktown Gal 01/25/12 10:08 AM

Yearling - calf that is under a year old

Fold - Scottish Highland Cattle is a Fold not a Herd

myersfarm 01/25/12 11:04 AM

Springer or Springing heifer - Heifer that is due to have a calf



springer it should be when they see the vulva swelling

3rd stage is when in 3 months they will have calf

2nd stage of course is the middle 3 months

short bred is first 3 months of being bred

sammyd 01/25/12 11:10 AM

springer is anything that is within 2 months or so
bred covers 4-7 months
short bred is up to 4 months bred

round here.....

myersfarm 01/25/12 11:29 AM

Sammyd....does your sale barn use the colored tags on cows to show how long they are bred ....blue 1 st stage first three months....red is 2nd stage 3 to 6 months bred and green 3 rd stage bred 6 to 9 months..all sale barns I have every been to have that posted somewere ....why I used the stages and


how do you tell a springer if in the last 2 months with out a due date.....vets are good at guessing but bred a beef cow to a jersey bull and you will throw them every time but if you see the vulva swell thats a pretty good sign on springing

myersfarm 01/25/12 11:35 AM

Calf - newborn off spring from a cow

ok what is a 2 month old called

what is a 5 month old called

what is a 9 month old called

a close to 12 month old is called a yearling

myersfarm 01/25/12 11:42 AM

Springer or Springing heifer - Heifer that is due to have a calf


that is due to have a calf when using your term...a heifer that is due to have a calf in 7 months would be called a springer....NO WAY

bred heifers here are called HEIFERETTE

Ken Scharabok 01/25/12 11:42 AM

Local sales barn: No age markings - yearlings. Larger heifers are aged by number of permanent teeth they get until they have six. 2/6 would be a two-year old six months bred (more or less). After they get all teeth they are called full mouths. Once they have some wear they are known as full/slashes. Teeth worn down to pegs, a pegger. Teeth worn down to gums, a gummer.

I once had a 16-year-old Holstein which would have been classified as a full/slash.

springvalley 01/25/12 12:07 PM

Now some of you guys are starting to split hairs, to most of us old timers we know darn well a springer is a heifer close to calving. I was also using this as a general terminolgy for those that know very little about cattle. And I do also know well and good that differant parts of the country call cattle differant things. And the real old timers called them something differant alltogeather. But I do thank you all for adding to the list, AllenW got a few I was thinking but didn`t write down, and I never knew highland cattle were a fold not herd. Keep writing, I`m going to make like a herd of sheep and get the flock out of here, lunch is calling me. > Thanks Marc

sammyd 01/25/12 12:24 PM

On Tuesdays which is the dairy sale day, all cattle are checked by a vet and their length of pregnancy is announced when she comes in the ring as well as any other problems noted such as bad quarters and CMT test results and so forth as well as production if the seller has included it. No tags or anything.
Don't dabble in beef cattle. And have never seen bred beefers mostly open heifers and cows.
Quote:

ok what is a 2 month old called

what is a 5 month old called

what is a 9 month old called
calves

Allen W 01/25/12 01:09 PM

Every sale barn has a different way of doing things. Used to go to one that sold a lot of 8 year old cows, the next age group was broken mouth.

myersfarm 01/25/12 01:32 PM

Sammyd I agree 100 % but why i posted that was
Springvally posted

Calf - newborn off spring from a cow
..

why I posted ....he said NEWBORN...why i wanted to know what he called the other ages under 1 year

Callieslamb 01/25/12 01:52 PM

but...but...sometimes it's more friendly-sounding to say, my heifer that's going to calve....than that springy thing.....:nana: Who wants to sound like a snob?

And 'cow' is much faster and a bit more exercise than typing "steer"..... since you use both hands to type 'cow' and only one for 'steer'.

And if you want to split hairs - let's talk about how to spell 'calves'.....

myersfarm 01/25/12 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by springvalley (Post 5657993)
to most of us old timers we know darn well a springer is a heifer close to calving. > Thanks Marc


Just wondering what you call a 5 YEAR OLD COW THAT IS CLOSE TO CALVING

I CALL THEM SPRINGERS ALSO

MDKatie 01/25/12 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Callieslamb (Post 5658243)
but...but...sometimes it's more friendly-sounding to say, my heifer that's going to calve....than that springy thing.....:nana: Who wants to sound like a snob?

You could always say she's going to freshen. :-)

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Originally Posted by myersfarm (Post 5658287)
Just wondering what you call a 5 YEAR OLD COW THAT IS CLOSE TO CALVING

I CALL THEM SPRINGERS ALSO

We'd call that a heavy bred cow.

Judy in IN 01/25/12 02:26 PM

Hey! Where's the Gomer Bull term in the OP?:rotfl:

myersfarm 01/25/12 02:28 PM

at My sale barn as you can see that call them SPRINGER COWS


Replacement Cows:
Fresh Cows:
Approved – 1125.00-1425.00, ind Crossbred 1200.00, ind Jersey 975.00
Medium – 825.00-1075.00, ind Crossbred 1000.00
Common - 750.00-850.00, couple Crossbreds 735.00-775.00, ind Jersey 700.00

Milking Cows: Scarce

Springer Cows bred seven to nine months: Scarce

Baby Calves:
Holstein heifers – small 100.00-130.00
Jersey Cross heifers couple 90.00
Holstein bulls - 100.00-155.00, small 35.00-75.00
Jersey X Holstein bulls - 40.00-90.00
Jersey bulls – ind 20.00
Beef Cross bulls – 130.00-165.00
Beef bulls – 185.00-255.00

springvalley 01/25/12 03:52 PM

myersfarm, if you go by show cattle, they have three calf classes, junior, intermediate and senior heifer calves. But yes, I call all calves under a year a calf. Some of the names I call my cows I can`t type here, depends on what kinda stuff they have done that day. hehe. > Thanks Marc

MO_cows 01/25/12 05:22 PM

Re: calves. Beef calves. Once they have been pulled off their mothers, they could be called "weanlings" or "stockers". They might be 6 months old, they might be 8 months old.

While they are with their mothers, they are "calves at side". When you talk about them, it is more likely you would refer to their weight than their age. Such as, "short bred cow with 300 pound calf at side", rather than "short bred cow with 4 month old calf at side". The calf's value is in their weight, not their age, so that is the better reference.

This "short bred cow with 300 lb calf at side" could also be called a "3-in-1" (just to confuse the newbies. lol)

When they get close to a year old they are yearlings. If my calves were born in April, when January of the following year rolls around, they would likely be called yearlings at my place because they are from last year.

oneokie 01/25/12 05:40 PM

Stockers=Weaned calves weighing between 350 and 550 to be put on pasture.
Feeder=Large calves/yearlings weighing 600 and up.
Fats/fat cattle=finished cattle ready for slaughter.

Karin L 01/25/12 06:03 PM

For me, steers are not castrated bulls, rather they are simply castrated males, bull calves that have been castrated before puberty. Stags are castrated bulls, where they've been castrated after sexual maturity.

I like to refer to cows as mature female bovines that have had at least two calves. Bull can be mature intact male bovine or just intact male bovine. Two-year old bulls are bulls 2 years of age, yearling bull is a bull around a year of age, and mature bull is a bull over 3 years old.

First-calvers or first-calf heifers are female bovines that've had their first calf.

Calf - immature bovine that is less than 10 months old.
Heifer calf - immature female bovine
Bull calf - immature intact male bovine
Steer calf - immature castrated male bovine
Stockers - young cattle that have been weaned and have started backgrounding phase prior to finishing
Feeders - young stock (steers and heifers) near ready for slaughter
Finishers - cattle on hot diet and/or ready for slaughter
Weaners - calves that have been just weaned
Short yearling - young bovine that is 10 to 12 months old
Long yearling - young bovine over 12 months to 15 months old
Heifer - female bovine that has never been bred
Heiferette - heifer that is past 2 years old that has never been bred (my own term...)
Bullock - young bull less than 10 months of age
Dry-bred cow - pregnant cow not lactating
Cull cow/bull/heifer - animal that does not add productivity to the breeding herd and should be or is in the process of being sold
Bologna bull - bull intended for slaughter

I know there's others, but I too really hate it when people have to believe that a "cow" is anything and everything to do with cattle, including bulls and calves. What's worse is I've seen people talk about a calf in the first sentence then revert to the word "cow" when still referring to that calf. Well is it a calf or a cow??? Honestly...

Cindy in KY 01/25/12 06:20 PM

Heifer calf, Bull calf, steer calf
Heifer is a Heifer until she has a calf, no matter how old she is. She is not a cow until she calves. (spinster heifer) :)

A filly is not a mare until she has a baby.

1 calf cow, 2 calf cow, 3 calf cow, etc.
When asked how old our Jersey is, I say 2 calves.

haypoint 01/25/12 06:24 PM

I guess I'm guilty of this. I know better, but when talking to non-farm folk, I keep it simple and call all adult cattle cows. I know I've said, " See that herd of cows over there." when I don't know that they are cows. I should have said herd of cattle. I'll try to do better.

haypoint 01/25/12 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy in KY (Post 5658841)
Heifer calf, Bull calf, steer calf
Heifer is a Heifer until she has a calf, no matter how old she is. She is not a cow until she calves. (spinster heifer) :)

A filly is not a mare until she has a baby.

1 calf cow, 2 calf cow, 3 calf cow, etc.
When asked how old our Jersey is, I say 2 calves.

A new born horse might be a colt, but maybe not. It could be a filly instead. Lots of folks say, " Nice colt you've got there. Is it a filly?"

Ed Norman 01/25/12 06:43 PM

Everybody forgot my favorite terms that I have heard people say more than once:

Bull = has horns
Cow = no horns

Karen in Alabam 01/25/12 06:45 PM

Cow just rolls off the tongue easy that is all!

Did any of you people see that farm animated movie a while back. I can't remember the name, but they had a couple of Jersey cows, and they were definitely cows, they were always standing up on their back legs with their udder hanging out. But the voices they gave to them were male. And they were always saying "Yo Wassup" like they were from New Jersey.

Kind of like the bee movie where they gave the bee Jerry Seinfield's voice. (Hint all bees you have ever seen are female--unless you have gotten into the hive)

tinknal 01/25/12 06:55 PM

Funny, I was just thinking of starting this very thread yesterday.

I would add that "springer" is a dairy term. Beef folks say "bred heifer", and after she has had a calf a "first calf heifer", and after that a "bred cow".

lonelyfarmgirl 01/25/12 07:01 PM

Free martin, the female of a set of twins, one male one female, the female being unfertile and only good for slaughter..

Round here, we dont call ours cattle, they are shaggy, horned beasts, although someone asked me once if they were yaks.

LOTS of people assume, the horned ones are male, and aggressive. Sheesh! Our 7 year old, polled, mixed breed cow, one of the smallest polled we have, is the herd queen.

Herd queen, top female in the pecking order. Everyone bows to her desire.

There is also jumper bull. A jumper bull is an intact male bovine that has just reached maturity and is used for breeding.

Club calf is one bred and raised with the objective of being shown by 4H kids or FFA kids.

Judy in IN 01/25/12 07:19 PM

Still no definition of a Gomer Bull?

It's a bull that hasn't been castrated, rather has had a vasectomy and has had his "sword" re-routed to the left or right. His job is to show who's in standing heat.

myersfarm 01/25/12 07:54 PM

Judy sorry I knew what was did not see the post...first time i saw that it was a big laugh...his was re routed as you say after the first time I saw that wondered how he every stayed fat as he was trying every 5 minutes all day long

springvalley 01/25/12 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Karen in Alabam (Post 5657688)
And Short Bred is not a cookie

Karen, I had a good chuckle from this when I read it, I think of this when I hear short bred also. hehe. > Thanks Marc

gone-a-milkin 01/25/12 08:23 PM

I was always taught that a female bovine is called a heifer until she has had her second calf.
All the little ding-a-lings that are first fresheners are still heifers, until they drop that 2nd calf.

lonelyfarmgirl 01/25/12 09:19 PM

His SWORD!!:pound::pound:

myersfarm 01/25/12 10:24 PM

well it is inside a sheath



Quote:

Originally Posted by lonelyfarmgirl (Post 5659245)
His SWORD!!:pound::pound:


willow_girl 01/25/12 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone-a-milkin (Post 5659105)
I was always taught that a female bovine is called a heifer until she has had her second calf.
All the little ding-a-lings that are first fresheners are still heifers, until they drop that 2nd calf.

Yes, we call them heifers too until they freshen in with their 2nd. :)


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