can I get that download

I have the full excel spreadsheet from a nutratish it cost to subscribe.... that lets me mix feed for protien ...how many days on feed and ADG EVEN SHOWS A DIFFERENCE IN STEERS AND HEIFERS

The 1st link provides a basic worksheet for cost of rearing.
The 2nd link has 2 calculators. One of these should suit most situations.

http://www.calfcountry.co.nz/
http://www.ngahiwifarms.co.nz/cms/ca...economics.html

I rear my calves for a specific market. They need to be minimum 100kgs (3 months old) to be on sold to finishers.

Open the file in Google Docs. Go to file and save it as an Excel or whatever spreadsheet program you use.

Heritagefarm ..AH. I uploaded the wrong document. That was the sheet for beef calves. The one for holsteins


is the download I was wanting to see for the Holstiens

I modified it from 24 beef calves at $1.50 # with 1 pound grain on replacer to 24 holsteins on goats milk at $1 # with 4 pounds grain. Woohoo $7000 profit excuse me for not jumping up and down in glee. :rolleyes:
ETA: Same doc:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...HFqSXRxWnF6VEE

Heritage why I wanted to see your Holstien doc. the price of calfs the selling price of calfs you are using....


Let me say I am trying to help you I am a Holstien grower...I know what it takes to grow them and sell them for good money and also no what it takes in money....make $300 a calf pure profit I way out of line.....I just do not want you to do all this investment then sale and lose ...

but thats up to you I will stop trying to help anytime

128 3840 34560 Goat Grain $16
$1,843 TRUE
you have a glitch there if it 34,560 pounds of feed for the goats at $16 a hundred it will be 5529.60 instead of your $1843...if I am wrong let me know if your figuring something else there

still do not see anything in the grass or hay price COST either

Here's the scoop from my perspective, to make any money raising calves you must deal in big volume. Raising under 25 calves per year will pay the taxes on your property, feeds, supplies, hay, and a little extra for upgrades to the operation (fencing, lighting, equipment, fuels). It's a rewarding hobby and I can clearly see how to make money (volume). Crunch all the numbers all you want & remember it's just my opinion. Been there, done that...Topside

The calculation is built is. It is first pounds of grain per day, then month, then 9 months.
The line mistakenly says "9 months" for the goat feed. I changed it to the correct statement ("3 months"). This is the formula:
=E14*3/100*J14
=grain / month x 3 / 100 x cost of grain per hundredweight.
I take you do not know how to use Spreadsheets?

I don't understand your statement. Are you saying that $300 per calf profit is good or bad? You are doing bred heifers in a 18 month time slot whereas we're doing bull calves.

I know how to use and program spreadsheets have them even in my phone and palm e2 ....but you can program any space on any spreadsheet to show anything

ok this was your program accorting to you
128 3840 34560 Goat Grain $16
$1,843 TRUE

thats 128 pounds of goat feed a day or 3840 pounds goat feed a month or 34560 pounds goat feed in 9 months
as I stated 34560 pound of goat feed at $16 a hundred is how much
5529.60 instead of your $1843

$300 of profit on a calf that you sell at 700 lbs in 270 days is dreaming big time I know what it cost to take a calf from 3 days old to 400 lbs and also what it takes to get to 700 lbs....to bred 6 months...I keep up with everything ON A SPREADSHEET EXCEL

I do dairy heifers the first ones at 400 pounds I KNOW DONE IT FOR YEARS LOOK BACK AT MY POST OVER THE YEARS ON HERE

I GIVE UP

HOPE YOU DO NOT MORTAGE THE FARM THINKING YOUR GOING TO MAKE THAT $7000 ON 24 CALFS LIKE YOUR SPREADSHEET SAYS

34,500 pounds of grain divided by 100 time 16 dollars....equals $5,500

Each animal eats 3% of it's body weight in hay per day. This does not including waste, all the steers and goats need hay...

That's the nine month period.

I never said anything about $300 per calf in profit, I think it is closer to about $200 per calf in profit. You first mentioned $300 in profit per calf in one of your previous posts, which I thought was quite good on your part. Obviously I was wrong.
And this plan is for 360 days. The goats feed them for 3 months and then they are on grain for 270 days. That's why the configurations are separate. If I enter milk replacer costs, the cost of raising them on three months increases dramatically. Feeding them goat milk cuts the cost by roughly 2/3, which is explains the higher profit margin.

Your spreadsheet is suppose to read E14 times 9 vice 3....=((E14*9)/100)*J14

Spreadsheet has again been modified to show profit per calf, 600 pound calves at $1 per pound. If I go much further we may start functioning in the red.:bash:



Sorry. I guess it's a little messy. The D column shows the grain, in pounds, for every day. Then column E (E14) actually multiplies the grain per day times 30. Column F (F14) multiplies E14, grain per month, times 9. That was for 24 calves in 3 batches of 8. Currectly that box (F14) is not being used. The total grain then configures the grain cost per month time 3 divided by 100 times 16, which is the cost of the goat grain.

$7000 PROFIT ON 24 CALFS IS HOW MUCH IS $291.66 VERY CLOSE TO $300


I never said anything about $300 per calf in profit, I think it is closer to about $200 per calf in profit.

So you admit that I never said $300? That's good... Right now I have it configured for absolute worst case scenario, which is $226 profit per calf. This has convinced me to get beef feeder calves; we will make more money.

Right now I have it configured for absolute worst case scenario

call feed store and see what calf feed you can buy for $12.00 a hundred


then call anybody you want and ask
how much weight a day will a 500 calf gain with 4 pounds of feed a day


then add in HAY PRICE

Heritage I'm glad you're excited and want to succeed, we are just making you aware of the possibilities....If I had the acreage and the energy I'd love go go at it big-time. Most I've raised in a year was 20, and sold those at weaning age....Keep the questions coming, I hope I'm helping...Topside

Actually we could get it cheaper than $12 per 100 if we got a bulk bin, then it would be $8 per hundred.

Yes, you're both helping a lot. However, the main reason for doing this is because we wanted to stop doing labor-intensive goat raising; unfortunately we make $200 profit off each of the dairy goats as well!

[QUOTE=Heritagefarm;5609567 And it's just little ol' me, I don't have a bunch of illiterates to work for me.:rock:[/QUOTE]

Ok, not sure what the above comment meant, and lord knows this format doesn't allow for body language, but the folks around here who work the dairies (and I assume you mean the Latino workers) have the GREATEST respect for education and learning and most are NOT illiterate despite the fact that they've had a much harder go of life than the rest of us. They are parents in my classroom and their kids overall are the hardest workers and their parents demand/expect respect for adults and teachers:soap:. Off topic but that comment just kind of set me off.

Thus, an illiterate does not benefit a diary or for that matter, any operation except basic basic labor, which is what an average Mexican ends up doing. Unless they're here legally, in which case they could end up being a successful restaurant owner.