Looking at jersey semen.....

Patty0315 · #21 08/02/11, 08:53 PM

I bought the cow bred so I am not sure what they used. I also missed spoke she was born the 20th of May I will get a picture.

Patty0315 · #22 08/02/11, 09:01 PM

Here she is as a newborn . She was tiny but healthy.

minifarmer · #23 08/04/11, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by allenslabs

Awesome!!! I think he's the one I've decided to go with. Do you think it would be worth the extra to try sexed semen at least once or should I just go with traditional?

My work is in the Sexing Lab, so I, of course, would encourage you to buy sexed semen. A Bull calf from Tbone is good, while a heiffer calf is great. If you figure the cost difference with the 90% + purity, you've got a good financial decision. While any old calf will get your cow in milk, since you are already wanting to bring in the good dairy lines of Tbone, you might as well spend a little more to get a heiffer who can either bring in more income with her sale, or more income in future milk production. Win Win.

allenslabs · #24 08/04/11, 01:05 PM

Very true. I think I have talked myself into at least trying sexed semen. Also....another question....how long after your cow calves should you consider AIing them? I know you should plan for calving when you are wanting but didn't know how hard it would be to AI and how many times I might need to do it so I didn't know if it would be dumb to try that first heat after calving. Thanks all!

Catalytic · #25 08/04/11, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by allenslabs

Very true. I think I have talked myself into at least trying sexed semen. Also....another question....how long after your cow calves should you consider AIing them? I know you should plan for calving when you are wanting but didn't know how hard it would be to AI and how many times I might need to do it so I didn't know if it would be dumb to try that first heat after calving. Thanks all!

I spoke to a Select Sires rep about this yesterday, actually! He recommended 45-60 days after birth (obviously when she is in heat). He said heifers settle better than cows, and did not give an 'average' of how many times a cow needs to be AI'd to settle.

happydog · #26 08/04/11, 10:25 PM

I've looked at TBone before. He is A2A2, which is a positive. The negatives, which kept me from using him, are that he increases height in his daughters, and he increases udder depth in his daughters, which isn't something you want for your family milk cow.

Select Sires is noted for using bulls which increase height and that's something I'm trying to avoid. I've noticed that my newer girls which were sired by Select Sires bulls are much taller than my older girls.

livinzoo · #27 08/05/11, 03:56 PM

So happydog where would you recommend someone get A2A2 sexed semen that doesn't increase the size of the heifer. That is one thing I was looking for.

happydog · #28 08/05/11, 10:02 PM

My cow just calved and I need to start looking too. What I'm going to do is call Accelerated Genetics, Taurus, Select Sires etc and ask them to email me a list of their bulls that they've tested for A2A2 and the results.

Then I'll cross reference those bulls with their online stats to find one that fits as many of my criteria as I can get. I want a bull that decreases height, reduces udder depth, increases daughters productive life, scc number of 3 or less, and a couple of other things.

I checked with Taurus some time ago and their A2A2 bulls were Magistrate, Action Packed, and Impact. That was a while back and maybe they've added to that list.

allenslabs · #29 08/05/11, 10:51 PM

Nope, Taurus still just has those as A2A2. Action Packed, to me, is the best of those three but adds height. Also adds teat length which is good to me. Impact looks like he scored the best.
Sure wish I knew what all those other areas meant like milk +1278M 81%Rel. and all that stuff. And that stuff with the dollar signs in front of it. Clueless. LOL!

65284 · #30 08/06/11, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by minifarmer

My work is in the Sexing Lab, so I, of course, would encourage you to buy sexed semen. A Bull calf from Tbone is good, while a heiffer calf is great. If you figure the cost difference with the 90% + purity, you've got a good financial decision. While any old calf will get your cow in milk, since you are already wanting to bring in the good dairy lines of Tbone, you might as well spend a little more to get a heiffer who can either bring in more income with her sale, or more income in future milk production. Win Win.

I hear the separation is done by putting the semen in a flat dish then laying a tv remote on one side of the dish and a cell phone on the other side and letting the little swimmers sort themslves out?????

allenslabs · #31 08/06/11, 09:57 AM

LOL! Could be....lots of other things sort themselves out that way. Why not?

livinzoo · #32 08/06/11, 06:41 PM

I just found this list on family cow. It is of Select sires Jersey bulls A2 status.
236 JE 3 IMPULS 000000301592 A2A2
228 JE 143 INDICA 000000302712 A2A2
236 JE 145 JANTE 000000302761 A1A2
236 JE 146 ZUMA 000000302730 A2B
9 JE 202 ROCKET 000110437084 A2A2
7 JE 563 BRAZO 000110896009 A1A2
7 JE 590 ACTION 000111023978 A2A2
7 JE 605 MECCA 000111103085 A1A1
203 JE 607 MAXIMUM 000111950696 A2B
7 JE 620 MAXIMUS 000111355530 A2A2
7 JE 667 JACINTO 000112037374 A1A2
7 JE 670 GERONIMO 000111974939 A1A2
7 JE 679 RAY 000112345880 A2A2
7 JE 707 JUAN 000113097520 A1A2
7 JE 712 AWARD 000112545039 A2A2
7 JE 714 MATINEE 000111981214 A2B
7 JE 715 FINALIST 000112735151 A2A2
7 JE 730 SULTON 000113014192 A2A2
7 JE 738 LOUIE 000113486117 A2A2
7 JE 739 MVF 000113098615 A1A2
7 JE 749 GOLD 000113116456 A1A2
7 JE 762 FANTOM 000113636848 A2A2
7 JE 778 HARVEST 000113553028 A2A2
7 JE 780 INFLUENCE 000113586161 A1A2
7 JE 789 JACKPOT 000067008832 A2A2
7 JE 791 FANFARE 000113791527 A2A2
7 JE 794 ROLF 000113838660 A1A2
7 JE 797 BOWTIE 000113601824 A2A2
7 JE 808 AVENUE 000114090021 A2A2
7 JE 809 DUCE 000114247580 A1A2
7 JE 816 MOMENT 000114233721 A2A2
7 JE 817 KWARTZ 000114118198 A1A2
7 JE 821 SPECTACULAR 000114245720 A2B
7 JE 832 FROSTLINE 000114478245 A2A2
7 JE 839 COALITION 000114874470 A2A2
7 JE 847 BOOMHOWER 000114715872 A2A2
7 JE 859 RILEY 000067029404 A2B
7 JE 860 ECLIPES-P 000114845461 A1A2
7 JE 865 KYROS 000114704155 A1A2
7 JE 867 GOVERNOR 000115087248 A2B
7 JE 882 BLAKE 000114970792 A2A2
7 JE 886 MILES 000115089482 A1A2
7 JE 889 JOHNSON 000115010596 A2A2
7 JE 915 VERIFY 000115016220 A1A1
7 JE 919 SMARTBULL 000115227039 A1A2
7 JE 937 DESIGN 000115346590 A2A2
7 JE 953 DALLAS-PP 000115181885 A2B
7 JE 991 DAVE 000067171036 A1A2
7 JE 994 BUMMER 000067171038 A1A2
7 JE 997 AMENITY 000115860614 A2A2
7 JE 1000 TBONE 000113672851 A2A2
7 JE 1013 COWELL 000067080416 BB
7 JE 1019 TRADITION 000116250269 A2B
7 JE 1027 DAVENPORT 000116027632 A2A2
7 JE 1030 HARPER 000116193908 A2A2
7 JE 1032 ULTIMATE 000116473479 BB
7 JE 1037 VANDYKE 000116160025 A2A2
7 JE 1038 VALENTINO 000116279413 A2A2
7 JE 1044 CHILI-P 000116173100 A2A2
7 JE 1100 KANOO 000114118219 A1A2

Read more: http://familycow.proboards.com/index...#ixzz1UI7cSUPV

Some of them say A2B. Not sure what that means. I need to go through the list and figure out which ones are shorter stature and have gender selected semen available.

allenslabs · #33 08/06/11, 11:33 PM

WOW!! Thank you so much!! I have looked and tried to figure that site out but had no luck finding anywhere on select sires where it says A2. Thank you for that!

minifarmer · #34 08/08/11, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 65284

I hear the separation is done by putting the semen in a flat dish then laying a tv remote on one side of the dish and a cell phone on the other side and letting the little swimmers sort themslves out?????