3/4 Mini Jersey 1/4 Dexter bull calf for Sale

Who's to decide if this is overpriced? Why do people pay $600 for a 3 pound dog? If someone's willing to pay, why not take it?

And by the way, the other benefit of a registry is it helps establish what the breeding is. I recently offered a jersey/hereford heifer for sale, which I got from someone selling bottle babies. Some were concerned they didn't know for sure what she was bred from, and I didn't have a good answer for them - they just had to trust me, and I just had to trust the guy who sold her to me.

As for a dexter-jersey cross being less efficient, some of us don't want maximum production. If we have one cow, we don't need 6 gallons a day of milk. I like the dairy/beef crosses, because they give extra milk for the house, but when bred to a beef bull, give a nice 3/4 beef calf.

In addition, a very productive Jersey can be a problem for the amateur. They need more exact nutrition to avoid problems like milk fever, ketosis, etc.

As I've posted before, this was a 10 month old steer calf out of a lowline/jersey cow which I milked 1+ gallons daily, 11 months of the year. I don't think I lost too much production.

I'm new to cows, but my impression on the "Belmont" breed was that it was trying to establish as an offshoot of Dexters to retain the beefy characteristics but to improve milk production with the addition of jersey genes.

It's a decent enough idea, breeds in other species have certainly been founded on less.

any body got a idea what happens if they grow to tall

John,
From what I understand about registering these "off breeds" of cattle is that you can register anything you want in several different registries. If you decided you wanted to breed X,Y,Z,B, and U together to get a "A" you could and you could create a registered critter through one of the generic cattle registries.

Registries are a racket. If you want to pay the annual membership fees and pay the registration price you can register anything.

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Those which register animals like you describe, of dubious or no purity certainly are a racket. They prey on the gullible, and enable the dishonest. Registries which enroll legitimate purebred animals are a very good tool for the sophisticated, enlightened breeder, and they help them maintain the value of their animals. This is sometimes misused by less than honorable sellers, also preying on the gullible.

If you truly want to have a legitimate registry then DNA needs to performed on every animal requiring entry. I know for a fact of a fellow that buys one straw of semen from a very expensive bull and registers many calves from it. Where's the truth in that? I'm not even gonna go near the whole horse registration with a ten foot pole.

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At birth, a birth report is filled out with the AMJA, and when they are 3 years old their height is taken. If they are 42" or less they are registered as mini-jersey. If they are 42" to 46" they are mid-minature and if they are over 46" their registry never becomes final. No animal is fully registered until after the age of 3 - they only receive a certificate of birth.

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I can see the value of these mini cattle. I don't want or need a full sized meat animal or a full sized milk animal. So these minis are ideal. A mini bull with jersey influence bred to a dexter cow will make the female offspring be better milkers than the mother is. What's not to like? I do think that DNA testing should be required for registry though, like it is for Dexters.

Not true! Most of the breed associations do a great job and there are some "checks and balances" built in to prevent honest mistakes, protect against fraud and keep the herd book accurate. No, it isn't gonna be 100% accurate because there are animals and people involved, but it's pretty darn close and a whole lot better than when there are no written records at all. DNA testing adds a layer of accuracy, but also expense and work, and unless you hire a 3rd party to come out and ID the animals and pull the samples, it isn't foolproof either.

If you choose to have grade livestock and not registered, good for you. For most people that is what makes the most sense. But don't call the people that are doing the work, keeping the additional records, tattooing or branding their stock with permanent identification, paying dues and fees and working thru their association to promote their breed a "racket".

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I'm proud I made a good laugh for everyone on here I will not be posting on the cattle forum anymore as doctors are making me sell all my mini jerseys and all my mixed "culls" as you all call them which I have already sold all my culls and most of my Jerseys. I have milked for about 15 years and sold milk and never met more disappointing people than here Thanks for all of nothing

Gee, Smit747, you're a little cranky, aincha? I'm sorry you have to sell all your cattle, though, that's gotta hurt.

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I lean more toward Smit747's opinion, he posts a nice little bull calf and a couple resident "experts" jump on him and tell him his bull is overpriced and worth nowhere near his asking price. I'd like to see some of their little bulls. What is more unethical, IMO, is representing an animal as something it is not, which anybody without their head in the sand knows happens. Good registries require a genotype of at least the bull, and some breeders are taking it a step further now and typing the dam too. All this costs money, but it provides the assurance that the calf is indeed out of the represented parents.

As with most other breeds, do they know that the Dexter breed was formed with a variety of animals that shared a characteristic of small size, horns, and good milk production in the 1800's? From the ADCA:

The native home of the Dexter is in the south and southwestern parts of Ireland where they were kept by small landholders and roamed about the mountainous districts in an almost wild state of nature.

"The origin of the Dexter is quite obscure. The common assumption has been that the Dexter breed was derived from the Kerry breed or that it was a cross between the Kerry and some other breed, perhaps the Devon. It has also been claimed that a “Mr. Dexter”, agent to Lord Hawarden, was responsible for developing this Irish breed by selection from the “best of the mountain cattle of the district”.

Shocker!!! According to them I have seriously overpaid for my herd of 25 "mutts". Well, at least my fold of 20 Scottish Highlands is pure....

I agree

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Hi.
I'm kinda new at these forums so forgive me if/when I goof up!

I'm looking for a Polled, Mini Jersey cow or heifer, the smaller the better. I'd "really like" a cow already trained to milk, but it's doubtful I could afford one if I find it.

I'm not looking for "lots" of milk, but a moderate producer. She MUST be GENTLE.

I'd like her to be purebred, but I'll not rule out any crossbreds if they have everything else I'm looking for.

I'm in south/central MO, but will travel, or pay shipping for the "right" cow/calf.

I'm not "rich", so please don't email me with HIGH priced cows. (I found a BEAUTIFUL cow online that I really LIKED, but when I called about her, I was told she's $6000. And a couple states away from me. Now don't get me wrong, I'd pay that in a heart beat --- IF I HAD IT, but I don't.

Anyway, Keep me in mind and if any of you have what I'm looking for, or run across one, please let me know.

THANKS.
AppyHorsey@windstream.net

(And what's "trackback", listed below this post I'm writing???)

Smit747,

I'm sorry that you got blasted. I know a few people who don't come to HT anymore because of this very thing.

Maybe the heat and drought is getting to some people?

Smit 747, I too am sorry that people jumped on you like that. It was not called for..just "experts" showing how smart they are.

I'm tellin' ya...IF this had been a heifer...I would have had to of sold another Dexter..cause I've always wanted a Jersey/Dexter heifer.

I don't have a doubt that you will find this wonderful bull a home. And..I don't think he's over priced at all.

Best to you..

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isn't this for sale thread about a year old?

Okay Sherry, if you really want a Jersey/Dexter heifer here's you chance.

This is a J/D cross 1st calf heifer already broke to milk.



How about this one?

If you don't like either of those there are several more here for sale.

Okay...where the heck are ya in Missouri? LOL. I mentioned this to my hubby just now...all I can say is..it's gonna take a bit of work to get him to see it my way...

You can pm me your whereabouts and maybe we can "chat".

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Hey, 65284
Do you have any REALLY SMALL heifers/cows for sale? Polled. Thanks.
AppyHorsey