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HDRider 11/02/11 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by copperhead46 (Post 5486562)
Some dairy farmers in Arkansas are getting around this problem by selling raw milk for pet food, I guess if you want to drink it yourself, thats not their problem. It just burns my a** that I can buy cigarettes, but raw milk is illegle, something is just wrong with that!!!

According to this website, sales from the farm in Arkansas (and lots of other states) are legal.

http://www.ftcldf.org/raw_milk_map.htm

These folks are doing a great job. Everyone here should help them...

Their motto..........
Defending the rights and broadening the freedoms of family farms and protecting consumer access to raw milk and nutrient dense foods.

haypoint 11/03/11 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Karen in Alabam (Post 5487187)
I put those good articles on my facebook page. Hope to gross out all my friends.

I was grossed out when I found out commercial beef are fed chicken poop and dead dogs and cats.

I cannot drink commercial milk, but I can drink raw milk. I was better with my cow that ended up dying on me, Yo's milk is different and so I do another no no and throw a raw egg or two in it when drinking it or having a bowl of cereal. I only get gassy from Yo's milk not doubled over in pain like from commercial milk. The eggs help on that gassy stuff.

Raw milk contains lysine which my husband needs because he had Shingles. I have had psoriasis on my face and have had to put ointment on it for years, since I started with the milk it went away. My husband even says my breath is better since I have been drinking the milk.

So they will pry my Yo out of my cold dead hands.

Sorry for the thread drift, but where did you get the idea that commercial beef are fed chicken poop and dead dogs and cats?

sammyd 11/03/11 05:54 PM

Many operators feed chicken poop even dairy cows get it in places. Don't believe the cats and dogs deal though.

tonyb 11/04/11 07:12 AM

On principle, selling raw milk should be legal. But it needs to be pathogen free and the public needs to be aware of health related risks, which is the point of the USDA/FDA regulations.

Farmer2B 11/05/11 02:18 PM

The government can beat up dairies after they finish the terrorists and drug dealers.

springvalley 11/05/11 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmer2B (Post 5495139)
The government can beat up dairies after they finish the terrorists and drug dealers.

No, they want to shake down dairy farmers first because they don`t have all the fire power like the others do. It is such a shame, the small farmers always take it in the shorts. > Thanks Marc

willow_girl 11/05/11 09:22 PM

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Our family can drink our well water that did NOT pass health inspection due to high E. coli count,
:eek: :eek: :eek:

JDog1222 11/05/11 10:31 PM

Yep, good ol’ HD said we’d be fine, just make sure not to let the chlorinated people drink it. It has to do with our immunity! They said that we have built up immunity to it and that’s why we have no problem drinking it. :)

Forerunner 11/05/11 10:37 PM

Darn. I always thought a completely sterile environment was bliss. :shrug:

JDog1222 11/05/11 10:54 PM

What again are those circular DNA thingies inside of us that create all the ATP called again? What was it scientists were thinking those things were, BACTERA!!! <GASP>

NO WAY, couldn't be a symbiot, COULD IT BE? The MITOCHONDRIA????, this is way to crazy for me!

Forerunner 11/05/11 10:57 PM

Yeah, so, what's on TV tonight ? :)

JDog1222 11/05/11 11:03 PM

"Genuine truth angers people in general because they don't know what to do with the energy generated by a glimpse of reality." Greg W. Goodwin

Forerunner 11/05/11 11:08 PM

Boy, I'd know what to do with all that energy...... burn it in a home made milk pasteurizer. :thumb:

JDog1222 11/05/11 11:31 PM

To bad your already in reality FR, no energy for you. :shrug:Guess you're just going to have to rely on those cute little mitochondrial bacteria living there inside ya to produce some for ya! LOL ROFL :pound:

willow_girl 11/06/11 07:17 AM

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Yep, good ol’ HD said we’d be fine, just make sure not to let the chlorinated people drink it. It has to do with our immunity! They said that we have built up immunity to it and that’s why we have no problem drinking it.
Umm, more power to ya, I guess ... :teehee:

Forerunner 11/06/11 07:24 AM

Well, you've got to appreciate the irony.....
The HD comes right out and admits that people who have been "chlorinated" have had their immune system shut down by default.
I'd think a good prep practice would be to take measures now to enhance the immune system.

JDog1222 11/06/11 07:28 AM

O and FYI, FR, human chromosomes (DNA) are single stranded and horizontal. The mitochondria powerhouses inside our bodies that produce the energy for us, don’t have chromosomes at all!!! THEY, have circular DNA just like bacteria. THEY, don’t even exist in our genetic code! THEY are only passed along to the newborn by taxi via the mother’s cellular content, and then they reproduce THEMSELVES. HOLY CATTLE!!!! BUT, then again God did make Adam from the earth, and there proly would have been some bacteria in THAT, so it all makes sense then. SOOOOO, I HOPE your not cooking your cow pies in the milk pasteurizer MR. COMPOST!!!!!!!! Bahhhahahhahaha :pound:I crack myself up …………poor compost, feeling the pain of the soil organisms being thrown into HELL to FIRE a milk pasteurizer, MURDER I say, just MURDER!!

Forerunner 11/06/11 07:30 AM

:eek: you talk funny.

JDog1222 11/06/11 07:43 AM

ME, ME, YOU think I talk funny!!!

willow_girl 11/07/11 09:40 AM

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Well, you've got to appreciate the irony.....
The HD comes right out and admits that people who have been "chlorinated" have had their immune system shut down by default.
I'd think a good prep practice would be to take measures now to enhance the immune system.
And I think I'd bestir myself to fix my septic system so that it wasn't leaching into my well. Ack!

But YMMV. :shrug:

SCRancher 11/07/11 03:08 PM

Alright I must admit I lost interest in this thread a while ago and didn't keep reading the recent discussion however the ad rag I get from John Deere called "The Furrow" has an article on Raw Milk being self served ON-FARM in Germany.

They much like us have a raging debate about raw milk but they do allow you sell and buy it on-farm and they have a vending machine that does it.

Interesting read.

Pasohorsegal 11/07/11 08:06 PM

Raw milk , hummm, what about cantlope, spinish,lettice and a whole range of things you can get sick from, take your choice. As far as the feds getting into the milk business, they would better serve us by stoking up the borders then harassing the Amish!!

mozarkian 11/08/11 02:23 PM

I am not very politically correct, so my opinion may offend some. I should apologize in advance but am too darned stubborn to do so.
Sooo--- If you really look at government regulations on milk or anything else, and trace it all the way, you will soon see that ALL regulation is just another form of taxation and control, it's just candy coated with an attractive (to some people who want to be taken care of) "keep you safe" ad campaign to make you feel all safe and warm. Bull hockey! Regulation is another way of taking your money, tracking and controlling you. It is high time that we get back to free markets and being responsible for yourself in ALL ways. Raw milk is in the cross hairs so often because the very types of people who own a cow and drink its milk might be the type that are a little more obstinate and harder to herd than sheeple in general.

BlackWillowFarm 11/08/11 05:27 PM

The small issue here is raw milk. The bigger issue is the right to choose what we eat without gov't intervention and the eroding loss of personal freedoms. Not to mention the perceived corruption when foods like tomatoes, cantaloupe, peanuts and hamburger continue to cause illness and death but the companies that are responsible are allowed to continue to operate under the same gov't standards as before but the small guy gets raided SWAT team style. Some elected folks in Washington think they can save us all from ourselves. 'Cause we all know if you have the gov't stamp of approval, then it's all good, right?

springvalley 11/08/11 10:51 PM

Amen Carla, you tell it sister, well said. > Marc

birdman1 11/13/11 08:47 PM

THese Blanket laws are bad for the small farmer and trying to get laws changed is hard But it seems high food prices and salmonella scares are opening peoples eyes to localy home grown foods

birdman1 11/13/11 09:02 PM

THese Blanket laws are bad for the small farmer and trying to get laws changed is hard But it seems high food prices and salmonella scares are opening peoples eyes to localy home grown foods


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