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Old 12/27/13, 12:27 AM
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We have a brown Swiss (X?), a pure Jersey, and a mystery mutt. All three pretty much peg the same line in the jar with the cream level. The Jersey's milk is a bit more yellowish, and the swiss's is much whiter. The mystery mutt's is right in between. For the record, she is the cow that I wouldn't sell for a million bucks. It's like drinking a milkshake. It is a very limited sampling, but she has me seeing the virtues of X breeds.

The market for direct to consumer raw milk is pretty strong in the KCMO area. Prices are generally $4-5 per gallon+. I know of an artisan cheese dairy in Pleasonton, KS that is graded which allows them to sell thru grocery stores and other outlets. I would venture to say that the "grade A so they can sell cheese" is a linchpin to their commercial strategy. I would not hazard to guess if they are making any money. I hope so, though. Their cheese is fantastic and they are super nice people.

ETA: OLD THREAD ALERT!! And with that, I'm off to bed...
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Old 12/27/13, 02:06 PM
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This thread is a little old but I thought I would add to it.
I know of a small dairy in far Northern Utah that is making a good run at producing signature cheeses. I believe they began in 2003.
You may be able to contact these folks to draw some from thier experience.
The good thing about this operation is that along with the cheese production, they are taking advantage of the agritourism industry also. I can see many simularities with what you are wanting to do and things that your operation could capitalize on.
Beginning with cheese production may be a better place to start. The product has a better shelf life and sells for increasing prices as it ages.
I also think that getting someone involved that can help with a detailed marketing plan would be an advantage in the long term.
Look up rockhillcheese.com
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Old 12/27/13, 02:32 PM
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OOPs.. old thread.. my thought was of no use..
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This is an old thread and the op hasn't been on in over a year. It would be interesting to know how she did. Hopefully sucess, and little children, is the reason for no updates.
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Old 12/29/13, 05:03 PM
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Personally I get sticker shock every time I see what people charge and get for a gallon of raw milk, goat or cow. But if they can get it, more power to them.

I have always been a believer in Jersey cows. A bit smaller in over all size, they do eat some less and the good ones give as much milk as the larger breeds.

There are a couple jersey cows in our near future for milk and raising calves,
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Hi everyone... I still read here quite a bit, as well as the family cow forum and HT pigs forum. Right now we have 11 dairy cow including this years 2 heifers. We did buy the swiss and swiss x guernsey I looked at that week, as well as a guernsey x black Angus. We do not have the swiss crosses any more, they both freshened with blind quarters that I nor the vet could fix.
Most of our herd is jerser and jersey cross. My best milker right now is a roan jersey x normande first calf heifer. She really maintains condition in our rugged environment and still puts out the most milk. Having had 2 dairy bulls on the place over the last year, any future bulls will be in a can! Breeding plans for the next two years are the Bavarian Fleckvieh bulls Holzmichl and Rosskur. Then our much calmer black bull will clean up after 2 AI services.
We are milking with an old Surge RV2 pump my husband rebuilt and the 70lb SS Parts Dept milker. I love it, and he even likes milking now.
We tried selling raw milk for one whole year. Had a few really good customers, but waiting for people to show up was taking up too much time I could have spent working or improving things!
Right now we have 9 sows and their piglets and 12 calves... getting a new set of calves in the next week or two.
This business has to stay debt free and cash flow itself so it is taking longer than I 'want' it to, but we are getting there. By the time our youngest (due in April) is born, I hope to be making cheese with 1/2 the milk of 24 cows, feeding 50-100 calves yearly, and raising finished hogs on the whey and hay the cow/calves don't eat.
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Old 01/02/14, 05:01 AM
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I milked 2 jerseys, a guernsey and a holstein x jersey and loved the milk of each one of them for different reasons. the jerseys gave more butterfat and the butter was excellent one jersey kept the fat for her calf (yes, cows can keep the fat for the calves and give you skimmed milk- which had amazing selling appeal) the guernsey gave lovely golden milk, which appealed to some people. the holstein x gave lovely white milk which had appeal to some people. in TN it is illegal to sell milk off the farm so i sold cow shares. some would state the breed of cow they wanted milk from. the established breeds are good enough for the niche dairy. you don't have to reinvent the cow.

it sounds like you already have a good body of knowledge so i will say that i learned i liked the smaller jersey and guernseys to the larger holstein or swiss. working alone, i just like the smaller size better for handling, vetting, freshening, shelter, etc. i also liked their docile temperaments. i left the calves on them; didn't have a lot of customers to start. so the larger sized cows give more milk but seems like they give more milk because they are larger and they eat more. i've read the jersey actually gives the most milk based on body size. but dunno if that is correct.

it takes a while to get the customer base going. i didn't hang in there for the good customers to add up- i worried about liability with raw milk. people would come without a cooler... sometimes their jars didn't look sparkling clean and i would wash them even though i had stated i wouldn't. some but to clabber the milk and i worried about that.

look into a small, expandable line system from the start if you can afford it. the buckets won't work out for three cows that don't have calves on them. you'll have to stop milking, dump the milk in a cooling tank, clean bucket, and start milking again.

being small has great advantages too. you can take a personal approach to the cows, keep them clean and healthy and producing a healthier product. you don't have the factory line mentality of speed, speed, speed and sucking the life out of your cows for extra pennies. it is a lovely way of life. the 7 day a week schedule didn't bother me because i loved what i was doing but it was expensive and i couldn't hold the line until breaking even, which i didn't do. think it would have taken about 5- 7 years to develop the customer base. in my neck of the woods people didn't want to pay $12/ gallon. I got a little over what store bought milk puss sold for and butter was not worth it. yet my cows were vetted and tested, fed well and treated well so it was a losing proposition. if i had to do over, which i still dream of, i wouldn't sell for less than $10/ gal. i would rather raise pigs than sell for less. the small farmer has to stand beside her superior product and expect to receive its worth on its own merit and not competing against super walmart prices. there is a demand for excellence - it is just a long timeline. best wishes for you.
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Abe, I know Pleasanton well, used to live close to there. That dirt road you live on wouldn't be in the Worland area would it? There used to be a real old time honky tonk there that I frequented many, many moons ago.
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Old 01/02/14, 10:45 PM
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Abe, I know Pleasanton well, used to live close to there. That dirt road you live on wouldn't be in the Worland area would it? There used to be a real old time honky tonk there that I frequented many, many moons ago.
No, I'm up north an hour or two, near the Cass/Bates county line.
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