OLDTIMER still waiting

Thank you Allen W. My point exactly!
You have to reverse engineer the mix to get the sulfur content down to a safe level.
So try this:
Is you grind 1,000 lbs of hay @ 08% protein
How much corn gluten with 15% protein can you safely add?
What is the daily dry matter protein of this mix after being adjusted for a .82% sulfur content.?
OT

Note:
Source provided by myersfarm 12/13/10, 12:02 AM on Distillers Grain as a cow feed
http://www.extension.umn.edu/Beef/co...DiCostanzo.htm

For those of you who are ahead of the curve, here is where we are going next.
Phosphorus
http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/ansci/beef/as1286w.htm

Source: http://www.cattlenetwork.com/Cattle-..._NEWS_&aid=760

Forget it.

I know the Pearson Square up down and sideways...Good luck with trying to make magic out of fact....I'm done....Topside

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I'm lost.

No way can you mix feed and acheive a higher protein feed then the ingrediants you start out with.

Oldtimer if you want to be taken serious you need to either admit you don't know how to figure rations or use examples that make some kind of sense or have a point.

oldrtimer you posted I find it absolutely amazing how fast youins can find a formula to mix feed when your purpose is an attempt to prove me wrong, but when for weeks I asked you for a formula to mix corn gluten, all I got was a song and a dance.



and on 12/13/10 I posted exactly how to feed DDG.... DO NOT THINK THIS WAS A SONG AND DANCE


oldtimer those are your ingrents THESE are mine in %







WhtStrw 16.00 %
ModDist 56.00 %
SBHulls 26.90 %
Corn 0000
DG435SRU 1.10





Sum of % Fed = 100.00
Ration Cost, $/Ton = 134.39
%DM = 66.73
%Prot = 17.15
%Ca = 0.84
%P = 0.48
% Fat = 5.36
NE(m) = 83.85
NE(g) = 49.88
% Roughage =

Ration Markup, $/Ton =
CNES, % Efficiency = 100
Cattle Wt. @ Phase Start = 780
Cattle Wt @ Phase End = 900
DM Intake, lb/hd/d = 19.90

Days = 48
As Fed Intake, lb/hd/d = 29.82
DM Intake, % BW = 2.37
As Fed Intake, % BW = 3.55
ADG = 2.52
Dry F/G = 7.88
Feed Cost/Cwt Gain = 79.40
Total Cost/Cwt Gain = 79.40

AND ON 12/15/10 i POSTED WHAT YOPU ASKED FOR


could not get it to work without some soybean hulls...this is the dry distillers....yOur ration cost WILL BE DIFFERENT those are old prices...this is only for the small calfs feeding them 9 pounds a day.......do not know why you would want to feed cows and thing except good hay....but thats up to you



hope this helps ready for questions I am sure you have some..


Ingred. <----------------------------% Fed (As Fed Basis)------------------------------->
Name 450-473
CSHulls 12.00
FesHay
WhtStrw
SBHulls 25.00
ModDist 61.00
Corn
MFdltPrmxR 1.00
Limest 1.00


Sum of % Fed = 100.00
Ration Cost, $/Ton = 78.38
%DM = 65.13
%Prot = 18.50
%Ca = 0.89
%P = 0.54
% ADF = 35.49
NE(m) = 87.59
NE(g) = 54.07
% Roughage = 97.02

Ration Markup, $/Ton =
CNES, % Efficiency = 100
Cattle Wt. @ Phase Start = 450
Cattle Wt @ Phase End = 473
DM Intake, lb/hd/d = 9.10

Days = 14
As Fed Intake, lb/hd/d = 13.97
DM Intake, % BW = 1.97
As Fed Intake, % BW = 3.03
ADG = 1.60
Dry F/G = 5.68
Feed Cost/Cwt Gain = 34.21

OLDTIMER posted

Why did you force me into lies, deceit and deception just to get you to admit there was/is in fact a proven industry accepted formula we could have been using when I first asked the question?



JUST WHO forced you to LIE....did they hold a gun to your head


IT would take a lot more then that to make me LIE

To all,
Re:
Please forgive me as I made a serious error that may have mislead you.
That statement should have read:
Please forgive this uneducated senile old man..
Thank you
OT
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