Quite an amazing transformation! Great job getting that cow back on its' feet!

Wow! I am far from an expert but the change is incredible. I would have a hard time believing it is the same cow that changed that much in such a short time. You have done a fantastic job!

WOW! I had to go back and look at her before again...you have done an amazing job! Well done.

Nice job Karen...Top

On ground like I'm seeing in your pictures, you had better worm them.

I disagree with another forum member, this animal most likely did not originate from a dedicated dairy causing stress to her frame.

Indications for my assumtion:

1. She has her horns. No dedicated American dairy farmer leaves hornes on his cattle these days. The reasons are obvious.

2. She lacks good dairy type desirable on today's modern farms. Her udder (even in her obvious poor condition), topline (the general flow from her shoulders through her withers, hooks and pins to her tail) frame and hoof condition are not indicitive of proper herd management/maintanence or good selective breeding.This is not to be construed in any way as a hack on you Kareni n Alabam. You have done a fine job saving these two animals and I commend you.

3. I didn't read every single post made, so if this is repition, forgive me. Your cow looks severely wormy and lousy at the same time. No dedicated American dairy farmer would alow either condition to persist.

I therefore disagree she is stressed from being in dairy service or even over milking from calves nursing on her. I think she needs worm and parisite treatment. I don't know how you acquired her and (again) I couldn't bear reading every post. So, if I'm wrong I do apologize.

She was wormed by the vet when he came to see her a few weeks back. He gave her a shot, not the liquid kind you put on their backs.

We still think she is beautiful.

Thanks

The cow is now in condition to start to cycle and to be bred.

Of COURSE she is beautiful. :)

She looks to be coming along nicely.
Good job with them both.

Karen~ she looks great!

But I think you should worm her again too. The injection the vet gave her was good for the life cycle that the wormer effected. But I don't think any of them effect ALL the life cycles~ so if your sure or reasonably sure she had a heavy worm load you best bet is to worm her again NOW to catch the eggs that hatched since the last worming~ then again one more time in 2 or 3 weeks to catch any stragglers hatching still. I think three wormings in a row should do you~ then move to once ever 3 to 6 months as needed while she is being well maintained. I would think Cydectin the pour on would be fine. It's expensive to buy but lasts a long time and does a good job.

Good luck~
And again~ WOW she looks better!!!

Yes, she is indeed beautiful. When I wrote "lousy", I meant that in the literal sense.. she looks to be infested with lice.

I will reiterate; You have done a fine job. For not having any experience with cows you should rightfully feel proud.

I meant no slight toward you whatsoever. I want that to be clear.

I'm glad the vet treated her for parasites. Keep up with a strict treatment program and she will reward you with even further gains and production.

Now there you go!! Here's a thumbs up to you Karen! Hope things continue in a positive progression. Take care.

In this case, perhaps you could have at least read far enough to see how well she is doing now and not come down so hard on the OP
She is doing MUCH better and that in itself is a testament to the care she is getting.

I see that we posted at the same time...I appreciate your new tone.

Lady, I may not read every post (I admited that) but what I read I comprehend.

There was no "new tone".

This is the internet. Communication is limited in so much as you cannot hear the tone of my voice, see my facial expressions, or read my body language. How are you able to detect a "new tone". You can't. So don't attempt to correct me, or make another accusation toward me. Your little friends on the internet might be impressed, but I'm not.

I'm the only one that hit it out of the park on the parisite problem during the course of the post. Apparently you missed the crux of my complexly woven paragraphs.

Karen in Alabam, I apologize having to write this in an otherwise informative thread you started. I mean no offence toward you. Again, job well done.

CJB, get the fire hose charged, things are getting hot...

Triple divide

If you can detect lice on this cow in the picture you certainly posses an uncanny ability. The animal is recovering from abuse but the pic does not demonstrate what you described IMO.

I wasn't offended by anyone, and didn't even pick up on the lousy comment.

we hadn't noticed any lice on her, flies yes. I have brushed her a bunch of times and never noticed anything. I will make sure everyone in the pasture gets wormed this week

Karen, once again be proud of your success. Those little black dots are those tiny flies we all see this time of year, keep up the good work....Enjoy your cow and calf, nice to see positive threads posted...Congrats.

Well, Agmantoo, if you read my post (you did of course), you know I said she looks lousy.

Now, you're obviously a cow man. You tell me, does the cow in this post strike you as being free of parisites..?

My point was obvious. The cow was not suffering from over-taxing in any manner beit from a production line or nursing calves. She looked sick from parisites. I mentioned lice as well (sorry I didn't elaborate on this for you ,cows do get lice, as I'm sure you know) on a hunch. I was looking at the same picture you were...

By the way, how precisely did you arrive at your conclusion she is over worked from nursing too many other calves?

Now then, that is a story I want to hear! Notice how I didn't parcel your assertion? Extend me the same courtesy if it's not too much trouble.

Edited to add:

Agmantoo.. lack of worming of cattle is abuse in my book. Get my point?

I have NOT read much of this thread but let me jump in here and say that's a good looking jersey cow. If you compared her to mine she would score at the top of the body condition chart. Some jerseys are just not easy keepers and can never be fattened up while in milk in my opinion. ( I happen to have a few of them that I have wormed, wormed, and wormed again) (not counting taking fecal samples to the vet, drawed blood, and kept immunizations up and current. ) As well, they have free choice mineral in front of them.

I finally concluded to say, "Oh well, the milk tastes good."

I would welcome this critter on my place anyday!

Triple divide
We know the cow was abused by the prior owner. That is obvious and is a given. It is a known fact the calf that came with the cow is not the calf that originally was planned to accompany her.

As per your quote of my previous response "This was not my assumption. Mine was that this cow was a milk source for numerous calves and that she had nearly been milked to death."

The portion "This was not my assumption." That comment was a reply to a statement posted earlier by Ronney. The balance of the quote "Mine was that this cow was a milk source for numerous calves and that she had nearly been milked to death." The word "Mine" was my continued reply with the inferred word (assumption) not being repeated. Triple divide, this is where we differ. You come in here presenting an all knowing attitude imo whereas the majority of posters, though a few like me are sometimes to blunt, possibly demonstrate a little more tact.

Now, to answer does the animal now appear to be loaded with parasites? No she does not. And why not? She does not have a coarse appearing hair coat. She appears alert. Her eyes are not obviously matted. And finally, to have gained the weight she has in the short duration indicates a lack of parasites. PS.. The weather has been hot and it is a known fact that lice cannot tolerate hot direct sunlight. Had she had lice they would only be viewed on the shaded underside of the animal this time of year in Alabama.

Your question "By the way, how precisely did you arrive at your conclusion she is over worked from nursing too many other calves?"

If you will reread my statement I believe I stated it was my assumption. Please cease to attempt to take my posts out of context. It is doing neither of any good. The assumption came from my observation based on experience having viewed the first pic of the animal.

So should I worm her again? Should I just give them all a dose?

Weather has been very hot, it has been mid 90s up until this week.
Good to know signs to look out for.

I think for your next update, you should start a new thread. :p

It wont hurt them to get another worming.
I would do them all at the same time, yes.

I am really happy to see you still posting here, even after all the confusion. :D
I like your cows name too, Yo. All the best luck with getting her bred back. :)

agmantoo,

I have waited since posting for your reply. I have been courtious. I have done nothing to offend, and have offered apologies both in advance and directly.

You accuse me of taking your words out of context, and yet this very quote of yours proves you are doing to me exactly what you are acusing me of. I gave a highlighted direct quote from post #30 (the OP's post!) . I never asked "Does the animal now appear loaded with parisites?" You persist in trying to redirect to this lice drama to a post I never referenced and a quote I never made.

We were both making assumtions based on the same pic. I took it further to urge the OP to initiate a dedicated worming program. Perhaps my lice comment was illicit. Fine. Yours was as well.

Please don't malign me and presume openly my motives. That's poor form.

I had wanted a couple of Jerseys and to name them "Yo" and "Wassup", its kind of a New Jersey thing. (I'm not from NJ but CT)

The problem with "Yo" it sounds just like "No", which I yell at her when she comes with those horns. So now I have learned to make another noise when I am displeased.