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Old 03/02/09, 09:22 PM
 
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Sale barn/Bottle calves
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This thread is incredibly informative about buying bottle calves from a sale barn but I was looking for tips and tricks to help the calf take the bottle willingly.
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We hadn't even thought about the attack on her until we were analyzing the whole situation after the fact. (Hindsight is 20/20) She didn't appear to have been harmed so at the time we didn't think much of it. We were just so thrilled to have a little calf, we never noticed the slope head or any of those details. I'm still not quite sure how one can tell from looking at a calf if it has a sloped head.
That's understandable. I've had my share of 20/20 moments. I hope your new calf does well for you.
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As for the matter of proper facilities, I'm glad to know that you all have all the animal housing you might need less than a year after you got started, we can't all have that luxury.
6ncounting, It's not a luxury and it's not optional. Especially if you keep a bull. It doesnt take a lot of $$ or time but you must have pens/areas for separation when necessary. ck
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Sorry if anyone was affended by anything I said....

I will say... the info givin to us early in the post is not the same info you are now giving us...

Also, how did the vet come to his diagnosis of water on the brain?


And please tell me this cow is now hamburger or atleast off of your farm...


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I will cut the chase. Go read the archives of the blog for Feb. It is an eye opener if you have not read the entire month. The dispatching of the hog that was processed and the life of this calf had a lot in common. Now there is a bottle calf in with the chickens. One of the major sources of E. Coli is chicken litter.
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And please tell me this cow is now hamburger or atleast off of your farm...
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Hmm, Cant see that the cow did anything wrong. She is not a good fit at this 'farm' and the blog says both cows are for sale.ck
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I will cut the chase. Go read the archives of the blog for Feb. It is an eye opener if you have not read the entire month. The dispatching of the hog that was processed and the life of this calf had a lot in common. Now there is a bottle calf in with the chickens. One of the major sources of E. Coli is chicken litter.

Just to be clear the chicks are in a box, not roaming freely, til they are old enough to go to the coop and the calf is no longer in the same room, he has been moved to the barn.

Oh but please don't just read the one month, try the whole blog Agmantoo, I'm glad you found it to be such a page turner, let me know when you are willing to respond to the pm conversation you started.
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Sorry if anyone was affended by anything I said....

I will say... the info givin to us early in the post is not the same info you are now giving us...

Also, how did the vet come to his diagnosis of water on the brain?


And please tell me this cow is now hamburger or atleast off of your farm...


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Justin,
As a vet student, I am hoping you are not insinuating that my vet, who has handles livestock daily, is in some way unqualified to make such a determination.
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Old 03/03/09, 03:45 PM
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Hmm, Cant see that the cow did anything wrong. She is not a good fit at this 'farm' and the blog says both cows are for sale.ck
Hmmm, cant see where I said the cow did anything wrong. Just simply saying this cow needs to be somewhere she can be properly handled. I dont read her blog.

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Justin,
As a vet student, I am hoping you are not insinuating that my vet, who has handles livestock daily, is in some way unqualified to make such a determination.
Nope, just a simple question. Calves that display a hydrocephalus phenotype, more commonly described as "water on the brain" are offten confused with AM calves (Arthrogryposis Multiplex). If your calf was properly diagnosed with hydrocephalus phenotype you would know that it is inheridant and would need to dispose of the calves sire. If she was AI'd then you will need to notify they supplier of the semen asap. So again, how did your vet come to this diagnosis?

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Nope, just a simple question. Calves that display a hydrocephalus phenotype, more commonly described as "water on the brain" are offten confused with AM calves (Arthrogryposis Multiplex). If your calf was properly diagnosed with hydrocephalus phenotype you would know that it is inheridant and would need to dispose of the calves sire. If she was AI'd then you will need to notify they supplier of the semen asap. So again, how did your vet come to this diagnosis?

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Justin,
While I'd love to humor you and continue this, I frankly don't have the time. Though I doubt the genuineness of your "simple question" I will say this, I was not present at the examination where the doctor determined that she would need to be followed because he suspected that she had this condition based on whatever physical characteristics he saw. Now, he may have determined that this must have been the case as he felt her condition overall was good, I really cannot tell ya. He may have decided that my $35 a visit was worth keeping around no matter how infrequent it was and tried to make us feel better, still couldn't tell ya. He told us that it was genetic, we have contacted the people that we bought the mother from and it is up to them from there.
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Old 03/16/09, 08:18 PM
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I am sorry about your calf. It sounds like heartbreak to me.
I am old to animals and fairly knew to certain farm livestock.
Seems to me we all have some learning to go through..and we do. I suspect every soul could look back in retrospect and say.if only i had...or I should have would have.
I at least know I have made mistakes that a more experienced homesteader wouldn't have made..But I can just about bet..that old experienced homesteader has their fair share of mistakes they have made in the past.
6N best of luck to you. I hope your next venture goes better then this one..and that you will have a fat calf on your homestead
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