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Old 02/20/13, 10:38 PM
 
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How do you retain heifers in your herd without rotating bulls every year?

All registered stock originated from inbred stock. Culling is the key to success.

I do not fully understand the situation with my herd. Here is my opinion. I do not wean the heifers that I retain. The cow will do that prior to giving birth to the next calf. With the heifer on the cow I tend to believe that the heifer is slower to reach sexual maturity and is slower to go through a heat cycle. I do want my heifers to breed by 15 months of age but as long as they are around 70%+ of their to be weight at maturity I am satisfied. Using low birth weight bulls and only grass as feed the calves are usually small and seldom do I have any problems. With even a rare problem I still feel it is financially justifiable to have heifers to calve at 2 years of age. I market all heifers that have to be assisted while giving birth regardless. My goal is to never be a midwife to a cow!
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Old 02/20/13, 10:48 PM
 
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Thanks for the quick answer Agmantoo. Understand about the donkey's causing trouble. When we hear the coyotes it's always several so that's what has me concerned. We keep a couple mules with the old horses for protection but they don't like small animals of any kind so wouldn't be good with calves. Again thanks for the response.
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Old 02/21/13, 07:08 AM
 
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coyotes and calves:

we are surrounded by coyote territory...we hear them often and very close by..many of them, and recently a neighbor stopped to tell me that they had lost a calf to coyote(s)....however this was a family who are trying to raise bottle calves and had not put them up for the night, since it was 'nice' out....

babies need supervision and there is nothing better than a mama....and even though my mama cows are gentle and easy to work with, as soon as a calf bawls, the big cows ALL come running...we vaccinated and tagged calves yesterday...a calm and not too stressful operation, however one calf just flipped out....and immediately the barn was encircled with nosy moms....and since that calf is a steer his fate is already sealed...even before we knew he was not so easy going.....

we calve generally in the fall, and I try to time the rotation so that the herd will be closer to home and not in the more remote pastures...I do think that since most of my cows will wander off to calve, that may be a vulnerable time...though once the calf is on the ground any disturbance will bring the others right away...also since their paddocks are not too big, the others are not usually very far away should help be needed...another good thing about rotational grazing...

we have donkeys, and they are watchful, but not always with the cows...the good thing with them, is that they are loud if they need help, very loud...and I have seen those jennys stand very quietly by watching a momma cow in labor.....
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The coyote question depends on your local coyotes, 95%+ of the time they aren't a problem They are very adaptable to there surroundings and generally rare for them to bother cattle.
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They say 2 or 3 coyotes can sound like a dozen.
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We are finally recieving some very much needed moisture, of course, the western part of the state is having blizzard conditions. My poor cows and horse are sure they are dieing, when will this wet stuff go away!
I have started fencing the cows into a small paddock area in anticipation of grass growing. We are still cutting out cedar trees, in the last year we estamate 1,000 trees and to make my rotational fencing easier I would like to take out about 50 more. Don't be impressed, we still need to remove 2,000 more just to clear out the pasture area. We are finally able to burn some of the cedar piles and I have to say it is very satisfying to see an area cleaned up.
The winter's work had OERB out to clean up an old oil well site, it has been clean, leveled, sprigged and fenced off so the grass has a chance to get established. Now to get the rest of the fencing complete.
Hoping we continue to have drought relieve and so thankful I now have some tools to help my pasture recover.
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We are the opposite this year and lately. We have gotten too much rain if there is such a thing. My cows are tearing up my lanes pretty bad but considering I have some type of water access every 400 ft it is my fault, I should have moved them to the next stockpiled fescue paddock that hasn't been grazed at all this year and kept them out of the lane all together and put my portable waterer in place with minerals in that tall grass. I will be paying the price tomorrow in the pouring rain making that happen. I have reseeded all the areas they are tearing up as they do it with fescue, rye and clover.

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We are the opposite this year and lately. We have gotten too much rain if there is such a thing. My cows are tearing up my lanes pretty bad but considering I have some type of water access every 400 ft it is my fault, I should have moved them to the next stockpiled fescue paddock that hasn't been grazed at all this year and kept them out of the lane all together and put my portable waterer in place with minerals in that tall grass. I will be paying the price tomorrow in the pouring rain making that happen. I have reseeded all the areas they are tearing up as they do it with fescue, rye and clover.
i don't think a few tore up lanes will be a big deal, its better than the whole farm. I have afew tore up myself, its good feeling to be able to keep them off the rest of it. to not tear it up and prevent backgrazing which they will do a lot this time of year which is very detrimental to the grass.
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Regarding the trampling damage to the existing forages......the short time for recovery will amaze those that have not witnessed how fast the areas will heal. Seed the areas now and do some minor surface smoothing. By late May you will be hard pressed to realize, by looking at the now damaged area, that the problem ever existed. Rotational grazed land has the ability to rebound that I have never observed in conventional pastures. The organic buildup, the microbes, the soil aeration, the lack of compaction, the fertility, the recovery/rest periods all contribute to the extraordinary occurrence.

If any of you have any thatch remaining in stockpiled forage that was not fed over Winter you need to put the cattle on it now. Let the animals tread the wasted dry matter into the soil. If there is no green showing near the root area some reseeding is in order.
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The cows are grazing the last of the stockpiled fescue. It will be done by March 8th. I was hoping to graze rye late February or early March, but it is still too short. I could flash graze some large areas for a few days, but from the recommendations on this thread I could damage the grass by grazing under 3 or 4 inches. So, I guess it is hay until Spring growth. Still learning, maybe next year,the cows can graze year round.
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If you have plenty of area that will come into production once the weather changes to promote growth just think through this. The burst of Spring growth will exceed your immediate needs shortly. Your needs would be best met by having this future grass timed to where the grass growth would be staggered. If you will graze the tallest of the rye grass obviously it will be stressed but with the withdrawal of the herd before it is grazed to the ground it will recover. Doing so will just delay the grazed area coming into production. Circumstances related to feeding cattle often mandate doing unusual means of dealing with nature. With my fescue forage I have taken the above steps a number of times to extend my grazing to get out of Winter. The impacted fescue is just slower to come into production and since the ungrazed area is not stressed it will come into production timely. Typically I can pick up an additional 2 weeks by applying this strategy.
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They say 2 or 3 coyotes can sound like a dozen.
Must be a dozen outside my fence at night because they sound like a hundred sometimes.
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Old 03/04/13, 09:03 AM
 
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Agman, thanks for the advice. I have a question. I know that overgrazing during the winter will stress the grass, and that it will not grow as fast during the Spring, but does it actually damage the grass or the root system? If not, I think I could get an additional two weeks of grass from the field that I sowed the rye and was last grazed in late October and November. But it would stress the stand of grass. Thanks.
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Agman, thanks for the advice. I have a question. I know that overgrazing during the winter will stress the grass, and that it will not grow as fast during the Spring, but does it actually damage the grass or the root system? If not, I think I could get an additional two weeks of grass from the field that I sowed the rye and was last grazed in late October and November. But it would stress the stand of grass. Thanks.
I'll not answer for Agmantoo, but I'll give my 2 cents.
You probably can't hurt the ryegrass. Its the perennials I would be most concerned with and then grazing low once is probably tolerable if needed. Where we get into trouble is where the cattle can go over this new grass and pick it down over and over again. I did that last year before I got my crossfencing up. It just keeps deplenishing the root reserves.
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ycanchu2 gave a reply that would be similar to mine. I might add that as I stated in other postings that it takes IMO 3 years to establish quality pasture. From what I have seen in research lately it appears that there is a shift in the thoughts of what occurs in this time period. Apparently much of this improvement is from the decaying of the root structure and not from surface organic matter. With our rotational grazing we are creating the circumstance where the plant grows both above and below the surface. As the above surface is harvested by the cattle the below surface root systems die back to balance the plant. The sloughing of this dead matter is the contributor of the soil building matter. If I am understanding this observation by the soil scientist correctly my conclusion is that we may need to treat the pastures somewhat like our lawns and periodically clip the pastures when we have surplus forage, particularly when we are receiving plenty of moisture.
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Here is a good article from Christine Jones..a soil biologist in Australia.
Jones, C.E. (2000). Grazing management for healthy soils. Proceedings Stipa Inaugural National
Grasslands Conference 'Better Pastures Naturally', Mudgee, NSW, pp. 68-75.
Grazing management for healthy soils
Christine Jones1
Abstract
The roots of grasses form a mirror image of the tops. This relationship provides a very useful
guide to the health and productivity of grasslands. In general terms, the removal of leaf area
through grazing results in root pruning, while resting from grazing enables root
strengthening. Continuous root pruning (as happens to the most palatable components of a
grassland when the grazing process is not controlled) reduces root biomass, slows nutrient
cycling, exhausts plant reserves and ultimately causes plant death. However, grasses also
degenerate if overrested. The grazing process therefore needs to be carefully managed, using
intermittent grazing and resting to stimulate the growth of new leaves and to provide pruned
roots as organic matter for soil biota.
INTRODUCTION
Healthy soils are the cornerstone of all agricultural productivity. The way we manage plants
for healthy soils, through control of the grazing process, is the focus of this paper. An
examination of excavated plant roots from many sites throughout temperate Australia, plus
insights gained while working with landholders on the biological monitoring of their
pastures, have made it abundantly clear that good grazing management requires:

i) understanding how to use grazing to stimulate grasses to grow vigorously and
develop healthy root systems
ii) using the grazing process to feed livestock AND soil biota
iii) maintaining 100% soil cover (plants, litter) 100% of the time (NO exceptions)
iv) rekindling natural soil forming processes
v) providing adequate rest from grazing without overresting
All five criteria are equally important. Conservatively stocked properties may appear healthy
at a casual glance and are usually in better condition than land heavily overstocked for long
periods. However, on closer inspection, it can be seen that damage is still occurring, albeit at
a slower rate. Any land which is continually exposed to grazing animals will fail to meet the
five criteria listed above. There are many indicators. Patch grazing, bare ground between
plants, unhealthy root systems, little evidence of biological activity in soils, nutrient transfer
to stock camps, low litter levels, weed invasion, tracking, damage to riparian zones, reduced
moisture-holding capacity and fluctuations in water table levels affecting streamflow, spring
1 E-mail: Christinejones22@aol.com

flow and the incidence of dryland salinity. Continuous grazing represents zero grazing
management. Graziers who do not proactively manage the grazing process unwittingly place
themselves in an ongoing confrontation with nature.
Grasslands and grazers
The resource degradation associated with unmanaged grazing often leads to well-intentioned
requests for permanent 'grazing exclusion'. However, grasslands and grazers have co-evolved
over millions of years, and grasslands NEED grazers, be they kangaroos, elephants, termites
or sheep, to facilitate energy flow and the recycling of nutrients. In medium to low rainfall
areas, grasses which are not grazed become senescent and cease to grow productively
(McNaughton 1979). If all herbivores are excluded, the health of the grassland declines over
time.
The use of fire as an alternative method of biomass removal and growth stimulation may
appear attractive, but results in atmospheric pollution, the loss of many nutrients which
would be recycled in the grazing process, loss of surface litter, and, if used frequently, bare
ground with a capped soil surface which inhibits the infiltration of rainfall (Savory 1988).
Landholders may occasionally have valid reasons to use fire, such as woody weed control, or
the enhancement of fire-dependent species. However, in view of the risks, fire is a tool
which should be used cautiously and infrequently.
Managed grazing is arguably the only natural process by which grasslands can be 'improved'
on a sustainable basis. Unmanaged grazing, or complete exclusion from grazing, will
inexorably (whether it be quickly or slowly) lead to desertification in all but the high rainfall
areas (Savory 1988). To achieve healthy grasslands in medium to low rainfall areas, stock
need to bunched into large mobs and moved frequently (Savory 1988). Grazing cells provide
a convenient tool for stock control. In extensive areas with few fences, stock can be herded,
as is now the practice on many large tracts of public land in the United States and Canada.
However, there is far more to grazing management than putting stock together and
manipulating the graze and rest periods. High density short duration grazing per se can also
lead to resource degradation in the absence of ecological guidelines which ensure that all five
criteria previously listed are satisfied. When all five criteria are met, grazing acts as a
rejuvenating process.
The living soil
Our soils are the basis of all productivity, but what makes a healthy soil? To be truly healthy
and working FOR you, rather than having to be 'propped up' with costly inputs, soil needs to
be living. Only the biological activity which accompanies plants can turn mineral soil (i.e. a
collection of weathered rock minerals) into living soil. Maintaining permanent groundcover
and using the grazing process to prune roots to feed soil organisms (soil biota), is of
fundamental importance for the regeneration of grasslands.
An enormous number and variety of organisms live in healthy soils, and perform many
functions. Large soil invertebrates, such as earthworms and dung beetles, are easy to see and
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more familiar to most of us than the microscopic components. They assist in the
decomposition of plant litter and animal manure by making it more accessible to soil
microbes. In turn, the activities of microbes (e.g. soil fungi and bacteria) can release up to
twice the amount of plant nutrients (such as phosphorus) than are available from applied
fertiliser.
How can we increase biological activity in soils? Like people, soil organisms cannot survive
without water, food and shelter. That is, they require suitable habitat and a reliable food
source. These requirements are met by organic matter in, and on the surface of, the soil.
Surface litter reduces temperature extremes (both hot and cold, like a roof on your house)
and aids the infiltration of rainfall. Plant litter also reduces evaporation, so that the net effect
of keeping soil permanently covered is that it stays moister for longer. Plant roots in the soil,
both living and dead, provide substrate (food) for soil organisms, in a form which is most
available when conditions are warm and moist. This is fortunate, because the nutrient cycling
activities of soil organisms in turn make nutrients available to plants when the plants most
need them, at a rate at which they can be utilised. This is one of the multiple benefits of
working WITH nature. These nutrients would otherwise be leached below the root zone or
adsorbed (fixed) onto soil particles in an unavailable form (Singer and Munns 1992).
Root pruning
Controlled grazing is the management of the relationship between animals, plants and
the soil. When undertaken in such a way as to provide organic matter in the form needed for
healthy, living soils, controlled grazing can regenerate grasslands and improve livestock
production simultaneously.
The biomass of the tops and the roots of grasses are roughly equal, forming a mirror image
(Fig.1). The energy for root growth and metabolism can only come from sunlight captured by
plant leaves during photosynthesis. A small ‘top half’ cannot possibly support a large root
system. Short grasses have short roots (Fig.1, left). Vigorous grasses have dense, fibrous,
multi-branched roots (Fig.1, right).
Fibrous root systems provide a multiplicity of benefits including soil aeration, erosion
control, enhanced nutrient cycling, soil building, increased water-holding capacity and
reduced groundwater recharge. They also provide habitat and substrate for soil biota such as
free-living nitrogen-fixing bacteria.
Grass plants and their litter form the primary interface between animals and the soil. When
livestock are left in the same paddock for long periods of time they place continual grazing
pressure on the most palatable grasses and these are kept short (Fig. 2). The compromised
root system of these overgrazed plants cannot function effectively. Nutrient availability may
be reduced 80-90%, creating an ongoing requirement for fertiliser application. Short root
systems also render plants extremely vulnerable during droughts.
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Fig. 1. The biomass of the roots and the tops of grasses are roughly equal, forming
a mirror image. Short grasses (left) have small root systems.

Fig. 2. Continual grazing pressure on the most palatable grasses provides a
competitive advantage to the less palatable grasses for water and nutrients.
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If desirable grasses are rested from continuous grazing (Fig. 3, right) and then defoliated in a
single grazing event (such as in cell or pulsed grazing), a large proportion of roots cease
respiring and die within a few hours of the removal of the leaves, in order to equalise the
biomass (Richards 1993). The root pruning effect (Fig. 3, left) is regenerative rather than
degenerative. These 'pruned roots' provide extremely valuable organic matter which
improves the physical, chemical and biological attributes of the soil.

Fig. 3. When desirable grasses are rested (right) and then rapidly defoliated through pulsed
grazing (such as cell grazing), the roots are 'pruned' within a few hours to equalise the
biomass (left). The root pruning effect (left) is regenerative rather than degenerative.
It is fundamentally important that grasses be rested prior to the next graze, to rebuild new
root systems (Earl 1997). Leaf regrowth can begin within hours of grazing, provided
conditions are favourable (Richards 1993). However, re-grazing at this sensitive stage will
severely deplete plant reserves, resulting in either plant death or the formation of a steady-
state type of equilibrium, where both tops and roots remain restricted in size, such as is found
in mown turf and continuously grazed grassland (Richards 1993).
During the graze period (which is most commonly one, two or three days) approximately
20% of the available forage should be trampled to form surface litter and approximately 20%
left standing (i.e. around 60% utilised for animal consumption). The percentages vary with
circumstances but the importance of forming surface litter cannot be overemphasised.
Finally, if the grassland is to be productive, it must not be overrested. Senescent plants are
relatively nutrient poor and have low digestibility and inactive root systems. Overgrown
grasses, in particular, can inhibit the growth of other herbaceous grassland species such as
forbs, which contribute to both biodiversity and livestock production. For these reasons, the
grasses which are desirable from an animal production perspective need to be grazed
intermittently. Note however, that up to 30% of relatively unpalatable, ungrazed tussocky
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plants can improve the structure and function of grasslands. Tussocks reduce wind-speed,
improve humidity at ground level and provide habitat for small living things above and
below ground. The result is higher overall productivity than can be obtained from short,
uniform pastures.
Competitive interactions between species
What about the grassland components we don’t want? The plants we call weeds? It is often
said that for as long as we spray weeds there will be weeds to spray. This truism applies
equally to the ploughing, burning or deliberate application of grazing pressure to unwanted
plants. Attempting to manipulate a limited number of species, be they considered desirable
or undesirable, with little consideration for the dynamics of the entire plant and animal
community, can lead only to a deterioration in ecosystem processes and landscape function
(Savory 1988).
When the grazing process is not managed, stock continually select the most palatable pasture
components (Earl and Jones 1996). As already mentioned, if these plants are overgrazed they
will have short roots. This prevents them from competing effectively with relatively
unpalatable, ungrazed weeds, which will have deeper root systems (Fig. 4A). In this
situation, the ungrazed weeds have an obvious advantage in obtaining water and nutrients,
particularly during droughts. If the 'softer' grasses are overgrazed to the point where they die,
it is highly likely that the less palatable species, which have had the opportunity to seed, will
take their place.
Considerable effort has been expended to find ways to 'graze weeds into the ground' (Fig.
4B) using some form of crash grazing in otherwise set-stocked situations. Like ploughing,
burning or spraying, short-term results often appear promising, but in the longer term, the
health of the grassland declines and the less desirable plants more often than not proliferate.
The use of high stock densities to apply grazing pressure to relatively unpalatable pasture
components (Fig. 4B), can reduce ecosystem health to an even greater extent than selective
grazing (Fig. 4A) if used repeatedly. In this scenario (Fig. 4B), the root biomass and root
depth of all species will be reduced, as will litter cover, leading to greater fluctuations in soil
temperature, reduced infiltration of rainfall, lower soil moisture levels, lower levels of soil
biological activity and reduced capacity for nutrient cycling. Plant community dynamics,
particularly competitive interactions below ground, will be almost non-existent (Fig. 4B).
The use of high stock density in this way differs from the strategic use of animal impact as
defined by Savory (1988).
Given the same starting point as before (Fig. 4A), let us ignore the weeds, and instead
concentrate on what we want. In order for the more desirable pasture components to produce
vigorous top growth and therefore vigorous roots, we need to allow sufficient plant growth
between graze periods. Plant community dynamics will do the rest (Fig. 4C). Competition
BELOW ground is the most effective way to reduce the vigour of established weeds.
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To reduce the germination of new weed seedlings, groundcover needs to be maintained at
100% (plants plus plant litter), for 100% of the time. This again depends on appropriate
grazing management. Well-mulched soils provide excellent establishment conditions for the
perennial grasses regarded as desirable for livestock production. These plants evolved in
soils high in organic matter -whereas weedy species usually colonise bare ground.

Fig. 4. Effect of grazing method on the competitive interactions between plants, particularly
below ground. A: relatively unpalatable species gain an advantage for water and nutrients
under continuous selective grazing. B: frequent crash grazing, burning, herbicide use or
slashing of undesirable species reduces the biomass of all plants above and below ground.
C: long rest periods and short, heavy graze periods enable desirable plants to form vigorous
root systems and out-compete less desirable plants.
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CONCLUSION
The way grasslands are managed affects not only their diversity and productivity, but also the
extent to which they nourish soil organisms. The activities of these organisms are vitally
important to both the cycling of nutrients and the maintenance of good soil structure, which
in turn have positive feedback effects on plant growth and animal production.
When pastures are always short, natural nutrient cycles can’t function. Degraded pastures
can be supplemented with fertiliser, but this augmentation is unbalanced and usually only
economical when commodity prices are high. In the current marketplace, the majority of
livestock producers are faced with a negative cash flow situation and can little afford
expensive off-the-shelf products. Furthermore, loss of groundcover as a result of unmanaged
grazing leads to weed invasion and erosion, as well as off-site impacts such as sedimentation
of dams and rivers.
Changes to conventional grazing practices which enhance ecosystem function have
implications far beyond changes in botanical composition. Of particular importance from a
rangeland health perspective, is the effect of appropriate grazing management on the
infiltration of rainfall and the water-use efficiency of plants, drought survival, biodiversity,
organic matter levels, soil biota, soil structure and the building of new topsoil.
Improvements in these factors can move us towards the restoration of hydrological balance
on a catchment scale and most importantly, strengthen rural communities through their
impact on farm profitability.
References
Earl, J.M. (1997). The benefits of increasing defoliation interval. Proc. 12th Ann. Conf.
Grassland Society of NSW, Dubbo, pp. 143-145.
Earl, J.M. and Jones, C.E. (1996). The need for a new approach to grazing management -is
cell grazing the answer? The Rangeland Journal 18: 327-350.
McNaughton, S.J. (1979). Grazing as an optimisation process: grass-ungulate relationships in
the Serengeti. American Naturalist 113: 691-703.
Richards, J.H. (1993). Physiology of plants recovering from defoliation. Proc. XVII Int.
Grasslands Congress, Palmerston North, New Zealand, pp. 85 –93.
Savory, A. (1998). 'Holistic Resource Management'. Island Press, Washington, DC.
Singer M.J. and Munns, D.N. (1992). 'Soils, An Introduction'. Second edition. McMillan,
New York.
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Here is an email she(Christine Jones) sent me about grazing height last year.


It is a scientific fact that the more leaf left behind the more quickly the plant will recover.

Almost twice as much feed can be produced in a given area over a whole year if the plants are only grazed down to half of their original height at each grazing event - and rested until they have regrown to their full height before grazing again.

If the plants are grazed down to 2 inches a lot more roots will die off than if the plant is grazed down to 4 or 5 inches.

Try if for yourself and see ...

Warm regards,

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Good talk from Allan Savory on MIG on the worlds stage.

http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savor...ml?fb_ref=talk

Edit: Just noticed some of the same topics she is referencing above he talks about in the video. The speech was given last month at TED.
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Someone posted it over on CT....great video...thought provoking.
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Someone posted it over on CT....great video...thought provoking.
Thanks for posting that article. It was a very informative.


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