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Old 10/25/05, 08:06 PM
 
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I was really shocked too. Do know that in the past they also put blood meal into feed for cattle.

Lots and LOTS of reasons to grow it all at home!
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Old 10/25/05, 10:51 PM
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What makes it a bigger joke, is the fact milk companies allow it. Yet they throw a hissy fit if you use hydrogen peroxide in the water system. They also have a fit if you were to use the water bowl line as your main line for water. Yet when you wash, it is at 180 degrees. You can get bacteria in a regular water line, just as much as a water bowl line, if not more. Considering the water bowl line could be used more.


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Old 10/27/05, 06:18 PM
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MaryF, the figure that your dairyman uses is correct. It's 3% of the cow's weight should equal pounds of dry matter for the daily diet. So if you have a 1000 # cow, she'd get 30# of DM per day. Figure that dry hay and grain would have 10% moisture, so you are looking at 33# in actual feed per day for that cow. (If you had her on corn silage, that figure would be much higher since silage has a lot of water in it.)

Acceptable waste is considered to be 10%, and generally speaking that will be all in the forage portion of the diet. Are you seeing uneaten/laid on hay or are you seeing an empty manger?

Cows can stuff in another 5# of hay a day if it's really excellent. That may be why you think yours are eating that much. I am going to round bales this year, but in the past I've fed small square bales, around 70# like yours, and how I do it is just put the hay out, say 12 bales, and then see what's left at night. If they wasted a lot, they get 11 bales the next feeding. If they cleaned it all up, they get 13, etc. In any case, I always figure 1/2 of a bale a day per cow here for an average figure that works pretty well. Heifers get some less, but call it 60% of the cow ratio for the average calf ration.

I wouldn't push too much grain on your milkers when they are gettin excellent alfalfa like that, either. And at only $100 a ton for hay like that delivered, well! Can't beat that price! Might want to think about feeding them 4:1 on feed instead of 3:1.

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Old 10/27/05, 07:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Jennifer L.
Are you seeing uneaten/laid on hay or are you seeing an empty manger?

Jennifer
Yes, we have a lot un uneaten hay that gets soiled because the pick through it.

Also, the lady that was offering the bales had to correct herself. They are 3x3x8 bales that are about #800 lbs and she is asking $60 delivered.
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